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From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Sep 12 19:36:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from acsu.buffalo.edu (deliverance.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.57]) by linux00.LinuxForce.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with SMTP id g8CNaiL2012763 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:36:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209122336.g8CNaiL2012763@linux00.LinuxForce.net> Received: (qmail 14300 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 23:29:05 -0000 Received: from listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu (128.205.7.35) by deliverance.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 23:29:05 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:29:05 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at University at Buffalo (1.8d)" Subject: File: "GEODESIC LOG9708" To: Chris Fearnley Content-Length: 690719 Lines: 16956 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:00:06 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Patrick Salsbury Subject: *SEMI-MONTHLY POSTING* - GEODESIC 'how-to' info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the semi-monthly "How To" file about the GEODESIC list. 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(Can be in the same message.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (You may want to save this file to forward on to people who are interested, as it tells what the list is about, and how to subscribe and unsubscribe.) Pat _____________________________Think For Yourself______________________________ Patrick G. Salsbury http://www.sculptors.com/~salsbury/ ----------------------- Don't break the Law...fix it. ;^) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 03:29:01 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Filip De Vos Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Subject: Japanese macrostrucures Yesterday (well, the day before yestarday now) I glimpsed part of a travel programme on RTBF1 (a Belgian French language state TV station), an item about Japanese preparedness against earthquakes. After showing how the Japanese, contrary to their claims, were _not well prepared to deal with a large disaster (as the Kobe quake showed), they moved on towards the construction of large artificial structures, which would have earthquake protection build in. The programme showed the original artwork for the Try 2004 construct, a giant 2004 meter high (yesyes) pyramid, made out of beams or tubes. The actual buildings in which people would live, work etc, are suspended from the nodes where the beams join. The beams serve as connecting elements, including transport. I first saw this picture in an article of 'Sciences et Avenir' (may 1994) in an article about Japanese megastructures. A model of this construct was also briefly shown in the TV programme.. What is still not clear to me is if the pyramid is a normal one, or a tetrahedron, a pyramid with triangular base. Anybody know more about this? Using a tetrahedral frame for the building would be a nice touch, and further improve the ability of the construct, to house a million people, to withstand every conceivable calamity. Accoring to the artwork, the ball-formed connectors appear to have a geodesic framework. The Try 2004 is a design by the Shimizu corporation. Other Japanese megastructures are (summarised FYI from the Sciences et Avenir article): The Millenium tower by the Obayashi corporation. This one is sharp cone, the outside frame looks geodetic. I once saw the great British architect Norman Foster toghether with Mr. Obayashi testing a model in the windtunnel. Apparently the cone shaping helps in avoiding problems with the wind. The Sky City 1000, A kilometer high tower including 14 platforms suspended between the columns by the Takenaka corp. Aeropolis, a 2001m high skyscraper of rather conventional appearance. Think the Sears tower on steroid, with triangular groundplan instead of squares. X-Seed, the most megalomaniac tower, consists of a bundle of giant columns. the inhabitants live rather conventionally in the columns. Or maybe habitation clads them. To avoid constructing foundation several kilometers deep, the engineers propose to build it on gigantic floating structures. This would allow it to be more resistant to seismic shock. No habitation above 2 km, the top of the structure at 4km hight is a solar power plant. And the DIB 200, the Dynamic Intelligent Building 200 consists of paralell geodesic framed cylinders. The engineers of Kajima corporation propose to control their respective positions in real time to modify the centre of gravity of the building to deal with quakes. This list is not exhaustive, and does not mention any Japanese proposal specifically for building on the sea, like the model of professor Terai... -- Filip De Vos The idea that space travel is inherently enormously expensive is fraudulent. FilipPC.DeVos@rug.ac.be John S. Lewis ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:40:06 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Brenda Myers Subject: Re: Dome Houses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I moved into our completed dome back in January and I love it. I served as my own contractor, which was a real pain, but I would do it again (without the mistakes, of course). The following URL's will probably answer most of your questions: Timberline, the company my dome kit came from: http://www.domehome.com/ They will be adding photos of my dome to their album in the future. Archives for the DomeHome Mailing List: http://users.vnet.net/ozzyman/Dome/domepage.html The pictures included here are the beginning contruction pictures of my dome. Good general information and links to other dome pages and manufacturers: http://www.dnaco.net/~michael/domes/ http://www.sculptors.com/lists.html Technical stuff and how-to's: http://www.mmedia.is/kingdome/ Offers a dome construction manual under SERVICES link: http://www.wr.com.au/domeco/WW3.html Hope this information helps. Let me know if you have any questions. Brenda Myers, Dome-Dweller At 01:35 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote: >I just wanted to know if you knew of a address i can write to or where i >could go to get more information on dome houses. I want to learn about how >you build one the costs to build it, and where you would buy your supplies to >build one? If you can help please e-mail me at: Orange1000@aol.com > >Thanks, >Mary > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:29:37 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: Japanese macrostrucures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Filip, Look in my web pages (URL below) under Links/Shelter/Cities/... There should be several items about megacities of various designs--including some that you have mentioned. JSM **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: Filip De Vos > To: GEODESIC@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Japanese macrostrucures > Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 08:29 PM > (snip) > > The programme showed the original artwork for the Try 2004 construct, a (snip) > I first saw this picture in an article of 'Sciences et Avenir' (may 1994) > in an article about Japanese megastructures. Also, look in the Bibliography section under About Bucky/Articles/1990s... (snip) > > The Millenium tower by the Obayashi corporation. This one is sharp cone, > (snip) > The Sky City 1000, A kilometer high tower including 14 platforms (snip) > > Aeropolis, a 2001m high skyscraper of rather conventional appearance. Think (snip) > X-Seed, the most megalomaniac tower, consists of a bundle of giant (snip) > > And the DIB 200, the Dynamic Intelligent Building 200 consists of paralell (snip) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:43 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: GENI Op-Ed . . .No Cure? Comments: cc: Peter Meisen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter, Excellent article! In case you don't know, the Geodesic List has about 100? subscribers and it is "gatewayed" to the Geodesic Newsgroup which has about 7,000+ readers. JSM PS: Please note my new email address. **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: ll > To: GEODESIC@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: Fwd: GENI Op-Ed . . .No Cure? > Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 08:45 AM > (snip) > > Opinion/Editorial > Peter Meisen > President, Global Energy Network International (GENI) > > No cure for a sick world? > or > Asking the right question for Spaceship Earth > (snip) > > GLOBAL ENERGY NETWORK INTERNATIONAL > Peter Meisen > P.O.Box 81565 > San Diego, CA 92138 > > (619) 595-0139 > FAX: (619) 595-0403 > > Visit the GENI World Wide Web Home Page: http://www.geni.org/ > Email: Internet: geni@cerf.net > Compuserve: 75543.520@compuserve.com > (snip) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 08:19:37 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: syn-l: Synopsis Comments: To: synergetics-l@teleport.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudi & Others, You may want to take a look at my "Selected Ideas" section of my web pages (URL below). Maybe some parts of it may help you to grasp Bucky's basic ideas. JSM **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: R.K. Treutlein > To: synergetics-l@teleport.com > Subject: Re: Re: syn-l: Synopsis > Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 04:05 AM > (snip) > > Rudi Treutlein ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:40:38 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: NEW BUCKY FORUMS Comments: To: David Freedman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, Medard Gabel runs the World Game. See: http://www.worldgame.org/~wgi wgi@worldgame.org **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: David Freedman > To: joemoore@MAIL.CRUZIO.COM > Subject: Re: NEW BUCKY FORUMS > Date: Saturday, August 02, 1997 09:24 AM > > trying to lacate locate meddie gable > tell him hi > from > genevieve, gigi grimme. > .- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 14:02:08 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: bill paton Organization: bp ent. Subject: Design Strategy notes DESIGN STRATEGY by R. Buckminster Fuller from "Utopia or Oblivion" Relevant Notes taken from the article from Bill Paton, Solutioneer bpaton@inforamp.net -"Better than 99% of humanity's frustrations are occasioned by surprise encounters with the almost completely invisible evolutionary-transformation trendings of human ecology and the latter's environmental transformings." -Two main and clearly differentiated modes of biological and zoological survival are STATIC (Static) and MOBILE (Dynamic). The biologically static are subjectively advantaged. The environment brings them what they need. The mobiles are objectively advantaged to "go" and get what they need or want. -"Only one's own "personality" and life are ownable." -"For only the last decade of all history has total physical and economic success for all humanity been conceded by science as feasible. Realization of this extraordinary potential is importantly frustrated, however, by several factors." 1) Local political systems based on rigid geographical and political partitioning of humanity under divisive and comptetitive ideological concepts. 2) Scientific evolution is largely invisible. 3) Mankind's behaviors and beliefs deny these truths. 4) Worldwide Language barriers. To effect the successful transition of world society to the new "norm" of man as a physical and intellectual success can, and we hope will, be realized on Spaceship Earth through the idealism of youth, as implemented by the educational-process revolution....It is not a matter of looking ahead one or two generations. IT IS A MATTER OF MAKING MAN ON EARTH A CONTINUING SUCCESS--FOREVER. We must ask "From whence will come the tools of conceptuality which will emancipate science and permit its assumption of the prime social, direct, conscious, sensorial responsibility? What can and will bring the world society's leaders and world society itself to comprehend its economic potential and its essential function in universe and to its successful performance of that function. -a problem adequately stated is a problem fundamentally ripe and potential of solution. First I refer you to my own attempts to make experience-founded-ergo scientifically definitive--answers to all 40 of the questions. 1. What do we mean by universe? 2. Has man a function in universe? 3. What is thinking? 4. What are experiences? 5. What are experiments? 6. What is subjective? 7. What is objective? 8. What is apprehension? 9. What is comprehension? 10. What is positive? Why? 11. What is negative? Why? 12. What is physical? 13. What is metaphysical? 14. What is synergy? 15. What is energy? 16. What is brain? 17. What is intellect? 18. What is science? 19. What is a system? 20. What is consciousness? 21. What is subconsciousness? 22. What is teleology? 23. What is automation? 24. What is a tool? 25. What is industry? 26. What is animate? 27. What is inanimate? 28. What are metabolics? 29. What is wealth? 30. What is intuition? 31. What are aesthetics? 32. What is harmonic? 33. What is prosaic? 34. What are the senses? 35. What are mathematics? 36. What is structure? 37. What is differentiation? 38. What is integration? 39. What is integrity? 40. What is "truth? " The results of these questions are developed into Bucky's: DOMINATE CONCEPTS 1. Universe 2. Humanity 3. Children 4. Teleology 5. Reform the Environment 6. General Systems Theory 7. Industrialization 8. Design Science 9. World Service Industries 10. Ephemeralization and Invisible Commonwealth 11. Prime Design Initiative 12. Self-Disciplines 13. Comprehensive Coordination 14. World Community and Subcommunities of World Man Concept One: Universe "Universe is the aggregate of all humanity's all time consciously apprehended and communicated experiences." -Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. Concept Two: Humanity The human is not an accidental onlooker "who happened in on the 'Play of Life,' but an essential syntropic function of Universe." -Unity is plural and at minimum two. -Specialization is no longer appropriate. -It is my intent to advantage all without depriving anyone. Concept Three: Children "Focus on new life. Since children are the hope of the future and 98% of the environment's positive or negative effects upon new life are wrought by age thirteen, it is obvious that effective work in advantaging life through environment can mainly be realized within the first thirteen years." Concept Four: Teleology Teleology by Bucky's definition means "the intuitive conversion by brain and mind of special case, subjective experiences into generalized principles...which permit the individual to reform the environment...so as to provide ultimately higher advantages for men" and to inspire others to do likewise. DESIGN SCIENCE EVENT FLOW: SUBJECTIVE: (Search, Research) -Teleology -Intuition -Conception -Apprehension -Comprehension -Experiment -Feedback Generalization Objective Development -Prototyping #1 -Prototyping #2 -Prototyping #3 -Production Design -Production Modification Reduction to Practice -Tooling -Production -Distribution -Installation -Maintenance...Service Regeneration -Reinstallation -Replacement -Removal -Scrapping -Recirculation Concept Five: Reform the Environment, Not Man. Bucky's philosophy and strategy confine design initiative to reforming only the environment and never to emulate the almost universal attempts of humans to reform and restrain other humans by political actions, laws, and codes. Concept Six: General Systems Theory Using the generalized principles he has discovered, Bucky says "I always start all problem-solving with Universe, and thereafter subdivide progressively to identify a special local problem within the total of problems." He thus attacks it comprehensively and anticipatorily. Concept Seven: Industrialization. "Industrialization consists of tools". It involves "all experiences of all men everywhere in history." Bucky sees it as inherently comprehensive and omni-interrelated in respect to all humanity. And he believes that, though subsystems of it are run shortsightedly by selfishly motivated people, the whole works inadvertently towards ultimately providing all men with higher standards of living....Because energy plus know-how is wealth, "the integrating world industrial networks mean ultimate access of all humanity to the total operative commonwealth of Earth." -Wealth cannot alter yesterday. It can only alter today and tomorrow. -Energy cannot decrease. Knowledge can only increase. Concept Eight: Design Science Design Science is concerned "with the scheduling of the complex interaction of the general systems events of industrialization." The rapid advance of technology in one field- air transportation, for example - must be "comprehensively integrated with all other vastly accelerating environment relationship transformations." The rental service industry must be compounded with time-designing doubling and possibly tripling the environment-control capabilities. Concept Nine: The Service Industry "Humanity is gradually trending towards becoming Worldians." Therefore, the static appurtenances of life - houses, automobiles, even typewriters - will all be rented like telephones because of man's increasing mobility. Amplifying this thought in another article, Bucky foresees man's ability to deploy at will all over the earth and the solar system by means of autonomous structures made livable by our astronauts life-support 'black box'. And he adds, "Quite clearly, man, free to enjoy all of his planets...will also be swiftly outward bound to occupy even greater ranges of the universe." Concept Ten: Ephemeralization "The acceleration of doing more with less...will complete the task of providing enough for all humanity within another thirty-four years...despite political systems that deliberately divide society and set one group against another." Bucky believes that without the interference of political systems it could be done in twenty years. Concept Eleven: Prime Design Initiative Bucky believes that it is essential for the individual, invention-developing pioneer to maintain his economic initiative and not get tied up with the massive capital-cum-bureaucracy of large corporations, despite the leverage of their wealth. They only seemingly overwhelm the individual with their economic advantages in respect to investment capital, working capital, credit capital and influence. -it is fatal for an invention-developing pioneer to own his own shop and tools because of overhead. -It is fatal to build up any large staff dependent on any one economic product or focus. -the lone individual has complete freedom from bureaucracy. Concept Twelve: Self-Discipline Instead of the obligation to make a living, Bucky substitutes the higher obligation of the individual's syntropic responsibility in Universe. He says " Do not mind if I am not understood as long as I am not misunderstood." -A curriculum of design science includes: 1. Synergetics 2. General Systems Theory 3. Theory of Games (Von Neumann) 4. Chemistry and physics 5. Topology, projective geometry 6. Cybernetics 7. Communicationns 8. Meteorology 9. Geology 10. Biology 11. Sciences of energy 12. Political geography 13. Ergonomics 14. Production Engineering Concept Thirteen: Comprehensive Coordination Comprehensivity instead of specialization is Bucky's key to successful design competence. His foremost self-discipline is never to try to sell one of his ideas to others. He will just design and test it, and wait for others, who need it, to come to him. He only goes where he is asked to speak because, if you force your ideas on people they listen unwillingly, but if they ask you to speak to them - especially if they pay a high fee -"they are very receptive." -the attempt to discipline myself to be an effective explorer in the realm of mastery of principles of comprehensive anticipatory design science. -I assumed in 1917 that nature did not have separate departments for chemistry, mathematics, physics, biology, history etc. -I am quite confident that I have discovered an importantly large area of arithmetical, geometrical ...vectorial coordinate system employed by nature itself. It is a triangular and tetrahedronal system. it uses 60 degree instead of 90 degree coordination. Bucky incessantly engages in trying to make all his previous inventions obsolete by designing better ones. Concept Fourteen: World Community and its Subcommunities Bucky believes that Chapter Three of World History is just beginning, in which world man will realize his potential for success as a function of Universe through his accelerating mastery of "vast inanimate, inexhaustible energy sources combined with doing more with less." -- Bill Paton --Solutioneer bpaton@inforamp.net THE DIRECTOR'S TEMPLATE http://www.inforamp.net/~bpaton ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 10:39:40 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: POPULATION Comments: To: SYNERGETICS _LIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudi et al, As the energy per capita in a society goes up, the birth rate in that society goes down. **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:52:02 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: syn-l: Synergetics based movie Comments: To: synergetics-l@teleport.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about a little boy (Bucky) dreaming of a far-off world filled with all his ideas and inventions? **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: AS02001@aol.com > To: synergetics-l@teleport.com > Subject: Re: syn-l: Synergetics based movie > Date: Sunday, August 03, 1997 05:28 PM > > i was thinking it in reference to the vector equilibrium...and the middles of > the stories or scenarios would be there just to add an extra level of > conceptuality and context, not as the most important part of all > scenarios...for instance, one of the scenarios would include a fantasy > sequence in which Earth functions the way Bucky envisioned, justapoxed with > an alternate scenario in which Earth functions worst than now, while an > element (symbol) connects them both.. This is way too dificult to explain > verbally, as the synergetic aspects of the combinations of visuals, motion > and audio cannot be explained fully or properly.....:) > .- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:58:07 +1000 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "R.K. Treutlein" Subject: Dymaxion Car Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've just unearthed "The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller" from my bookshelves (hung by chains from the ceyling--how fullersque can you get). In the section on the Dymaxion Car it says that car #3 was sold to Stockowski and his wife, who sold it a few months later. Over the next 9 years it repeatedly changed hands, popping up in Brooklyn in 1944 when it was bought by J. Arch. Butts Jr. who gave it to Fuller. At this point it was *estimated* to have done 300,000 miles. Note that: estimated. Bucky restored it to prime condition. This information was as of 1960, my edition revised"slightly", dated 1973. How to identify the vehicles: #1 had a single headlight, forward facing airintakes over engine bay. #2 had 2 headlights, forward facing airintakes over engine bay. #3 had 2 headlights and the tailfin, louvred airintakes on side of engine bay. Talking of 3 wheelers, I saw one the other day at a farm expo. Based on a Subaru front end, engine, frontwheel drive setup, front wheel steering. The rear wheel was mounted on a large swinging arm, not steerable. There was future provision for rear (ie 3 wheel drive) as well. The whole thing mounted in what used to be called a space frame. The vehicle had been built for a driver education school, to teach skid handling. With the CofG very near the front axle, it had loads of lateral stability, but the single rear wheel easily loses traction when pushed and skids out very nicely. With our certificatioon system it's doubtful that it will ever be seen on the public roads though. Rudi T. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:12:39 +1000 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "R.K. Treutlein" Subject: Re: the wonderful octet truss In-Reply-To: <33DC9325.39DD@xtra.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 00:40 29/07/97 +1200, John Rich wrote: > >Kirby Urner wrote: > >> will look like (of choice -- not talking force here). The idea of >> a wooden dwelling machine will make about as much sense as a wooden >> airplane or computer. >What's wrong with a timber aeroplane - it would be lighter, safer, more >durable, more energy efficient in construction and operation. Boeing >747's made from Glulam, LVL, plywood, honeycomb paper, cellulose etc? >And a wooden computer, as I've mentioned before in this NG is called an >abacus. Wooden aircraft, properly maintained will last allmost forever. They certainly outlast metal, which suffers from fatigue problems. Don't know about 747s though, that's getting a bit big. >My major problem with metals is the energy requirement to smelt them and >where that comes from. Well, accoprding to the pundits, the pipelines are almost full, and most of our future meatlconsumption can be supplied by re-cycling. >As a muesli munching, macrame underwear, quiche stained, trendy liberal, >anti-nuclear Kiwi who totally believes in land rights for gay paraplegic >whales, I don't believe you can ignore this issue - an economy based on >the consumption of Nuclear Power is false, What, not even fusion, if they ever get it off the ground? >and thus makes cheap >materials which are not really cheap - one day we will either pay >heavily to clean up the mess or die - in the meantime while this monster >runs its course the only saving grace if you are going to use such >materials is to make things which last (in contrast to the programmed >obsolesence philosophy) and re-cycle, re-cycle, re-cycle. My concern is the waste of known energy sources. The paddocks of timber, cleared by farmers, which then gets burnt, just to get rid of it. The methane wafting up from landfills and sewage plants, when it is known that it can not only be used, but that such use will also cut its green house potential by a factor of 21. The system around here, of putting people who need infrastructure work done to connect them to the powergrid, onto a system of fixed annual power bills, whether they use the power or not. I have neighbours who *never* turn their garden floodlights of. Why should they, they make no difference to their power bills. I'm not sure what the delivered effeciency is for their power, but there's an awful lot of coal going up in smoke for nothing. Rudi T. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:24:29 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Ben Malkevitch Subject: Subscribing to this listserv Hello. Is there any way I can subscribe to this listserv so that I can get the messages posted sent directly to me? TIA, Ben ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 02:02:53 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kevin Sahr Organization: Information Services - Oregon State University Subject: Global Grid page We've been doing some work here at Oregon State U. that I thought might interest you all: developing grids for scientific analysis of global data sets. Our work has been greatly inspired by Bucky. If you'd like to check it out, our WWW site is: http://bufo.geo.orst.edu/tc/firma/gg/ Kevin -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // // // Kevin Sahr Terra Cognita // // Research Assistant/Programmer Wilkinson Hall, Room 204 // ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:25:04 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: AMERICAN SCIENTIST July-Aug 97 Comments: cc: SYNERGETICS _LIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QUOTE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fullerene Nanotubes: C1,000,000 and Beyond Boris I. Yakobson and Richard E. Smalley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keywords buckytubes, carbon polymers, nanotubes synthesis, nanotube properties, nanotube applications, nanotube electronics Abstract For the past few years materials scientists have been eagerly exploring the properties of fullerenes--geometric structures built of carbon atoms. Recently a new fullerene has joined the buckyball, the striking cage built of 60 atoms. Scientists have found that the buckyball structure can be extended to form long, slender tubes--carbon nanotubes--that are single molecules comprised of rolled graphene sheets capped at each end. Computer simulations and laboratory experiments show that these tubes have extraordinary resilience and strength and various unusual properties; for instance, they can abruptly and reversibly snap from one shape to another under load, and they can be formed into very strong ropes. They also exhibit electrical conductivity in a quantized fashion that has lead to experiments with tiny nanowires and nanoscale transistors. A number of practical applications are now being explored, although manufacture of such incredibly small molecular wires poses enormous challenges. UNQUOTE. http://www.amsci.org/amsci/articles/97articles/Yakobson.html **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:16:07 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Organization: 4D Solutions Subject: Science in the Silicon Forest (archival) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARCHIVE COPY >From the Oregonian (local newspaper), Portland section. Don't have the exact date handy (1987 or so, given it says I'm 29). Came with a picture of me holding one of those Fuller Projection postcards up next to my head. ======================= Young Portlander entertains dream of lighting up world By Peter Carlin Correspondent, The Oregonian Kirby Urner has a plan. It involves geodesic domes, a new world map, an international power grid, world peace and the teachings of R. Buckminster Fuller. And Portland might play a big part in all this, Urner contends. One of Fuller's most distinct images is his Dymaxion Projection map, a super-accurate projection of the earth's land masses and oceans that the Medal of Freedom winner copyrighted in order to guarantee that it would never show national boundaries. While living in Jersey City, N.J. during the early 1980s, Urner attempted to interest some corporate donors in constructing a huge, wall-sized projection of the Dymaxion map out of millions of tiny light bulbs, much like the scoreboard screens at football stadiums. Urner said the map project met with some interest, but he found investors unwilling to gamble their funds on the future of a ravaged urban center such as Jersey City. "Portland, on the other hand, has a much brighter future," Urner said. "If OMSI goes ahead with their plans to develop a new site on the Willamette, I expect many Fuller-related artifacts to become part of that project." He noted that there were Fuller displays at the Louvre in Paris, at Disney's Epcot center in Florida, and at Expo in Vancouver, British Columbia. The map, Urner said, "would be a great way to educate people about the Earth, as well as providing businesses with a unique method of advertisement. Companies could get access to the map on a time-share basis to show off their assets. ...I suspect airlines would love to use it to show their routes around the globe." Urner said corporations he had approached with the sponsorship plan generally were receptive, but nothing concrete had been arranged for display of the map. Meanwhile, Urner, a 29-year-old computer consultant with the Center for Urban Education, is laying some of the groundwork for acceptance of Fuller's ideas. He teaches computer skills to the underprivileged and is making plans to expand the center's educational influence through the use of video technology. "I don't expect people to buy into all this immediately," Urner admitted. "But, as Buckminster Fuller showed, we have access to all the tools we need to transform the world into a more prosperous, peaceful place. We just need to pick them up." Urner spent some of his childhood years in Portland, before his father's career as an urban planner carried his family to a series of far-flung places around the world. Back in the United States, Urner studied at Princeton University and then spent some time teaching high school in New Jersey before moving back to Portland in 1983. He has been working with computers at the center since 1984. Fuller, who died in 1982, was a modern philosopher, mathematician, architect, theorist and writer who could count President Reagan, Henry Ford II, former CIA chief Stansfield Turner and Soviet premier Leonid Brezhnev among his more influential admirers. Fuller's revolutionary mathematics, explained in his books, "Synergetics Vols I and II," are the basis for his concepts of design and education. Products of these theories include architectural designs such as geodesic domes and Fuller's international energy grid, a proposal that would link the power supplies of nations around the globe. Urner said he hoped that Fuller's approach to science and math would open up peoples' perceptions of the world's future. "Frustration with science and math is the main roadblock between the world today and the world we want to live in," Urner maintains. "True awareness of the globe and the solutions to problems like hunger and war -- which Fuller says are under our noses -- will present themselves much more clearly if we acquaint ourselves more with the basic principles of math and science. "Media extravaganzas like scoreboard-sized maps and video programs are important, because they are dramatic methods of education, and education is the key to the future." ---------------------------------------------------- Kirby Urner "ALL realities are 'virtual'" -- KU Email: pdx4d@teleport.com Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 20:17:32 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Organization: 4D Solutions Subject: Re: Science in the Silicon Forest (archival) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARCHIVE COPY Note: there's another page to this thing which I can't lay hands on at the moment -- continues in a similarly humorous vein -- talks about the Mathematical Association of America (MAA) as I recall. ========================= O P E N L E T T E R TO: Mr. Ronald W. Reagan President of the United States of America FR: Kirby T. Urner American Network Chief RE: Education DATE: A.D. 5/25/85 Dear Mr. President: Although the Europeans are a great people, like you said, American kids want you to know that European invisible colleges are pushing a junk syllabus in American high schools and universities. Their Euclidean geometry, for example, comes from flatlander Greeks who'd forgotten about the earth's roundness. Their infinite planes and nonconvergent parallel lines delayed the discovery of our New World by the Europeans for centuries. We have reason to believe that their Church Hierarchies actually classified round-earth theories, kept them "top secret" in their special drawers, and persecuted those brave theoreticians as heretics, Satan's agents, spies for the "Evil Empire" (Hell). And the European measurement system is obsessed with The Cube as somehow God's "pet polyhedron," even though God's crystals, microorganisms and such clearly show that God avoids cubes like the plague (apparently cubic crystals are actually mid-edge joined tetrahedra). It's those fool Euclideans and their Cartesian accomplices who insist on imposing a rectilinear grid on our globe and on filling our space with their dumb little cubes. << EDIT >> ========================= ---------------------------------------------------- Kirby Urner "ALL realities are 'virtual'" -- KU Email: pdx4d@teleport.com Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:33:27 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: DYMAXION CAR #2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fuller's Dymaxion Car #2 is located at: Harrah National Automobile Museum (702) 333-9300..FAX:(702) 333-9309 10 Lake St. S, Reno, NV 89501, USA "The museum exhibits over 200 antique, classic vintage and special interest automobiles in 4 galleries and on 4 authentic street scenes representing each quarter of the 20th Century. Feature includes a unique multi-media theatre presentation; multi-media time lines chronicling the automobile; gift shop; and riverside cafe. World-famous automotive library offers research by mail. Museum is available in the evenings for group and convention activities. Open daily 9:30 to 5:30 (closed Thanksgiving, Christmas)." **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:52:47 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: FULLER'S DYMAXION (WICHITA) HOUSE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fuller's Dymaxion or 'Wichita' House is located at: Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village 20900 Oakwood Boulevard P.O. Box 1970 Dearborn, MI 48121-1970, USA 1-800 TELL-A-FRiend or (313) 271-1620 (313) 271-2455 (Telecommunications for the Deaf) http://www.hfmgv.org/ **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 03:48:04 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Thomas Dosemagen Subject: STARPLATE CONNECTORS Comments: To: GEODESIC@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I realize that this subject has been addressed before, but I elected not to pay attention and for that I am truly sorry. Does anyone still sell starplate connectors? If they do, who are they and how can I get in touch with them. Thanks in advance for all your help. Thomas Dosemagen ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:54:06 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: ll Subject: Bucky Fuller Memorial Lecture, Aug 16th I am honored to be one of the speakers at this years' Buckminster Fuller Memorial Lecture at the United States International University in San Diego. If you or any friends are in San Diego on August 16th --please come! I gaurantee you'll be educated, inspired and challenged. _____________________________ Please join us for The Buckminster Fuller Annual Memorial Lecture Saturday August 16th 2:30pm - 4:30pm USIU - Walter Library 10455 Pomerado Road San Diego, CA "Buckminster Fuller's Vision of Humans in Universe" Dr. Valentin Berezhkov Fluent in French, Spanish, German, Russian and English, Dr. Berezhkov served as Stalin's translator and authored the book, "At Stalin's Side". He was a good friend of Buckminster Fuller, meeting several times in his long career. After decades as a journalist in the USSR, he now teaches at Claremont University and the Monterey Institute of International Studies. "A Compelling Strategy for Peace and Sustainable Development" Peter Meisen A San Diego native, Mr. Meisen founded Global Energy Network International (GENI) to investigate Buckminster Fuller's premier global strategy -- the electrical interconnection of renewable energy resources around the world. This solution has been called one of the most thoughtful strategies in solving many of the world's problems. Special guest and film-maker Robert Snyder will be showing segments of his award-winning documentary "The World of Buckminster Fuller" Hosted by Dr. Anwar Dil, Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies United States International University _______________________ For more information: the Intercultural Forum at USIU: 619-484-2228 (refreshments served) "Man is destined to be an extraordinary success" R. Buckminster Fuller _______________________ END GLOBAL ENERGY NETWORK INTERNATIONAL Peter Meisen P.O.Box 81565 San Diego, CA 92138 (619) 595-0139 FAX: (619) 595-0403 Visit the GENI World Wide Web Home Page: http://www.geni.org/ Email: Internet: geni@cerf.net Compuserve: 75543.520@compuserve.com GENI is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation conducting education and research into the interconnection of renewable energy resources around the world. This was proposed as the highest priority objective from the World Game of 20th century visionary, Dr. R Buckminster Fuller. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 18:27:37 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Dennis Johnson Organization: Natural Spaces Domes Subject: Re: STARPLATE CONNECTORS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas Dosemagen wrote: > > I realize that this subject has been addressed before, but I elected not to > pay attention and for that I am truly sorry. > > Does anyone still sell starplate connectors? If they do, who are they and > how can I get in touch with them. > > Thanks in advance for all your help. > Thomas Dosemagen Tom I just talked to the retailer on Friday. They may be the only source for the Starplates. They retail for $44.95 plus 10% for shipping for the set with instructions. That builds an Icosa with the bottom cut off for a flat pentagon shaped floor. Order from: Stromberg's Chicks & Gamebirds PO Box 400 Pine River, MN 56474 218-587-2222 They are listed on Kirby's Dome Manufacturers List but the price is old. Have fun and keep building those domes. Dennis Odin Johnson http://www.naturalspacesdomes.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:32:54 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: STATS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From Tile.Net http://tile.net/listserv/geodesic.html GEODESIC List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Number of Members: 198 Country: US Site: State University of New York at Buffalo Computerized administrator: listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu Human administrator: geodesic-request@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu You can join this group by sending the message "sub GEODESIC your name" to listserv@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- >From the Usenet Info Center http://sunsite.unc.edu/usenet-i/groups-html/bit.listserv.geodesic.html bit.listserv.geodesic List for the Discussion of Buckminster Fuller Gatewayed to geodesic@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu Readers: 7,900 (0.1%) Mesgs per month/day: 292/10 Crossposting: 0% Megs per month/day: 0.9/0.030 Sites receiving this Group: 38% Cost ratio ($US/month/rdr): 0.05 **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:33:27 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Organization: 4D Solutions Subject: Re: lllll DON'T READ THIS llllll Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit testing 1-2-3... ---------------------------------------------------- Kirby Urner "ALL realities are 'virtual'" -- KU Email: pdx4d@teleport.com Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 12:14:00 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: Re: STARPLATE CONNECTORS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Only source I know of: Stromberg's Chicks & Gamebirds _____?____ ____?__________ Pine River, MN __?__, USA Phone: ? (I believe this came from DOME mag. JSM) Also, you might try searching the Geodesic Archives. **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ---------- > From: Thomas Dosemagen > To: GEODESIC@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: STARPLATE CONNECTORS > Date: Saturday, August 09, 1997 12:48 AM > > I realize that this subject has been addressed before, but I elected not to > pay attention and for that I am truly sorry. > > Does anyone still sell starplate connectors? If they do, who are they and > how can I get in touch with them. > > Thanks in advance for all your help. > Thomas Dosemagen > .- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 14:27:37 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: SIU-E RELIGIOUS CENTER GEOSCOPE DOME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Religious Center "The Religious Center was designed by Buckminster Fuller, who was famous for his geodesic dome designs -- just like this one. Eight religious denominations are represented on campus. Catholic and Lutheran services are held regularly, but other denominations also hold services and provide counseling there. Interdenominational services also are available. The Religious Center was designed as a true planetarium, which means when you look out from the center of the building, you see all the continents of the world painted on the dome and, after dark, if you were to look up through the specific country, you would see the stars just as they appear from that country. If, for example, you were to look up through Italy, you would see the stars as people in Italy see them. SIUE lies directly on the 90th meridian, which is the source of some of our room names, such as the Meridian Hall in the University Center." http://www.admis.siue.edu/recruit/virtour4.htm Campus map with location of Religious Center (#10): http://www.admis.siue.edu/recruit/slftour2.htm **************************************** * Joe S. Moore * Independent Buckminster Fuller Scholar * joemoore@mail.cruzio.com * Buckminster Fuller Virtual Institute * http://www.cruzio.com/~joemoore/ **************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 11:38:14 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: klfjsdlfj@DJFLASDJFS.COM Subject: Young Asians Show all Uncensored.....sample.jpg Check out the Hottest New Asian Sex Site on the Net !!! The Worlds most Erotic Young Asians Around UNCENSORED !!! Visit: http://www.hot-asians.com All Models are over the Age of 18 Years of Age or Older. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:37:49 +0200 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Tognon Marco Subject: Re: STARPLATE CONNECTORS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Thomas and all others interested in starplates. I ordered some plates from Stromberg. The price is still 42.95 US$ plus 8.59 US$ shipping charges. For export they charge another 20 US$. The order whas placed the 30th of december 1996 and the plates arived 12 weeks later. They (Stromberg) have no experiance with selling products abroad and do not intend to try to gain experiance. After long search I found out who is the manufacturer of these plates. The United Steel Products Co. 703 Rogers Drive MN 56069 of Montgomery, Minnesota, USA They have a telephone :800 328 5935 and fax: 507 364 8762 Ask for Mrs. Jacky. She is very helpfull, but Stromberg is a serious client of them. I try to buy a serious quantity of these plates but so far no response from either. I know that they do still deliver small quantities within the boundaries of the US. After all, it's a great connector for a quick and nice 1 frequency dome. I build 2 of them and evrebody likes them. Good luck, Marco Tognon Belgium ---------- > From: Thomas Dosemagen > To: GEODESIC@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU > Subject: STARPLATE CONNECTORS > Date: zaterdag 9 augustus 1997 9:48 > > I realize that this subject has been addressed before, but I elected not to > pay attention and for that I am truly sorry. > > Does anyone still sell starplate connectors? If they do, who are they and > how can I get in touch with them. > > Thanks in advance for all your help. > Thomas Dosemagen ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 21:43:14 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Joe S. Moore" Subject: EXPO '67 EVENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit QUOTE:

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