From <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-LISTSERV@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> Sun Feb 5 23:12:51 1995 Received: from netaxs.com (root@netaxs.com [198.69.186.1]) by access.netaxs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA02417 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:12:51 -0500 Received: from UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu [128.205.2.1]) by netaxs.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01151 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:12:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199502060412.XAA01151@netaxs.com> Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2288; Sun, 05 Feb 95 23:12:17 EST Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5619; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:12:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:12:05 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at UBVM (1.8a)" Subject: File: "GEODESIC LOG9410" To: "Christopher J. Fearnley" Status: RO ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 00:35:59 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Ross Keatinge Organization: Public Access Internet, Auckland New Zealand Subject: Re: GEO-POD Construction System I would also appreciate receiving a free manual but please let me know the cost of postage to New Zealand, I don't expect you to pay for that. Ross Keatinge INTERNET: icosa@iconz.co.nz 7/232 Mt Wellington Highway Mt Wellington Auckland 6 New Zealand ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:33:12 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kevin Sahr Organization: Forest Sciences Laboratory Subject: Re: Geodesic activity in Minnesota? In article <199409240526.WAA29653@teleport.com> Kirby Urner writes: >>I've heard that there is some activity going on in Minneapolis >>involving icosahedral sub-divisions of the earth. As this is something >>that we are working on as well, I wondered if anyone knew anything >>about this activity (we hate to duplicate work!). >> >>Thanks, >> >>Kevin >> > >I got a call from David Koski who lives out there. I guess the >U of M did a thing a year or so ago where kids in classrooms mailed >in their icosa segments of global data, which was applied to an >icosasphere. Segments that didn't look too good were airbrushed >with clouds. > >David found this article about how this is being done again, now >on a bigger scale. Some dude spearheading the project was claiming >to have come up with the idea of an icosahedral projection while >staring at a soccer ball in K-mart or something, no attribution >to Fuller. > ...remainder trimmed.. > I've since seen some of their literature and I'm wondering how these people can build geospheres (and make _money_ off of it) and never mention Bucky. Is the BFI aware of this effort? Don't get me wrong, I _want_ them to do what their doing, I just like to see Bucky get the credit he deserves (and which serves a useful purpose: Bucky's idea of showing what a single individual can do and all that). Kevin On the Front Lines with the Bucky Police ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 18:40:05 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: ST7743@SIUCVMB.BITNET Subject: Buckminster Fuller Centennial Celebration I have been asked by the author to post the following memorandum: MEMORANDUM TO: Whom It May Concern FROM: H.F.W. Perk RE: Initial Concept for Buckmister Fuller Centennial Celebration As a member of the Board of Directors of the Buckminster Fuller Institute, I know that plans are underway in various parts of the world to recognize Fuller's 100th birthday (July 12, 1995). As a faculty member at Southern Illinois University at Carbondale who came here upon Bucky's recommendation in 1964 I hope to initiate a major design science "festival/gala/circus/ recognition/remembrance/prognostication/charette/party" during the period July 1-24, 1995. o RETROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 1-11 will be a gathering of Fuller's friends, associates, students, and other interested persons to share in a variety of "show-and-tell" hands on, participatory, design science activities (build domes, play the World Game, participate in "Building a New World", explore synergetic geometry, make tensegrity structures, learn about buckminster- fullerene and its possibilities, explore "income energy" devices ...); o INTROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 12 will be the "birthday/memorial/ centennial global comprehensive anticipatory design party"; o PROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 13-24 will utilize the Syntegration protocol of Stafford Beer to engage 360 design scientists in planning the launch of the "World Design Decade 1995-2005", aimed at generating strategies to implement the "World Livingry Service Industry" to help achieve the conversion from "killingry to livingry" on a global scale during that decade. The proposed SIU Fuller Centennial Celebration extends over a 24 day period inn order that design science activities in each of the world's 24 time zones could be recognized (possibly via satellite telecommunication), at the rate of one time zone per day throughout this period. Bucky was born in the era of sailing ships, worked in the era of the aircraft, witnessed the birth of spaceships, and envisioned the "World Four" era of instantaneous global communication as one requiring all of us to once again become as "children at play" to learn how to cope with this strange new environment, unprecedented in human experience. (The transition from Bucky's "World One" to "World Four" has effectively shrunk the planet by a factor of one billion: humans have no prior experience with such a world, and how to make it work successfully and sustainably.) The scale of this event will require the cooperation of many persons, of whom I trust you will be one. -End of memo- All interested persons may contact Professor Perk through the Department of Community Development, Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, IL, 62901-4530; or through my electronic mail address, ST7743@SIUCVMB Bill Hall ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 02:30:00 +0300 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Dagan Packman Subject: What is I-Address of FIX in Philadelphia? I am looking for the telnet site address of FIX Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Grego10067 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: I'm curious In article <9409302120.tn58723@aol.com>, SGoddard@AOL.COM writes: GEO-PODS, I will send you instructions to build small cardboard domes, of the three frequency type, simple Hexagon-Pentagon type construction. just E-Mail me your address, ........the catch is that you will have to send me a photo of your students projects when they finish, this sounds like lot's O Fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sincerely, GEO-POD Systems ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 03:37:42 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Synergetics tutorial Still extremely primitive, but I'm excited about my newfound ability to put my own web pages online. For those of you with web browsers, the www address below (signature line) will take you to my home page. Choose "local overview" of synergetics to see my first efforts. I know Fuller said something about not showing unfinished work, but then synergetics will never be "finished" -- and certainly not my webified versions of it. Anyway, I could use some help, if anyone out there can (a) draw or (b) knows a source of polyhedron GIFs. I looked in vain through all the web connections I could. Found lots of things of interest, but something so basic as nice little GIFs of polyhedra were not among them. -- Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/index.html Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:13:11 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: What is I-Address of FIX in Philadelphia?h X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Dagan Packman" at Oct 2, 94 02:30:00 am Dagan Packman writes on Oct. 2: > > I am looking for the telnet site address of FIX in Philadelphia PA. > If anyone can help me... > Dagan-- FIX does not have a telnet site address, but may offer gopher. FTP and WWW in the near future, 30 to 60 days estimate. We will announce the new numbers on the Geodesic mailing list when we go online with our Internet services. In the meantime, FIX is accessible through (215) 463-7160. After logon and online registration, request a shell account on our system. With a shell account, you will be able to Usenet newsgroups and Internet Email. In preparation for becoming an Internet host, we are upgrading our modems to US Robotics 28.8k for all eight of our phone lines. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 20:17:22 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: Buckminster Fuller Centennial Celebration X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "ST7743%SIUCVMB.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Oct 1, 94 06:40:05 pm Bill Hall memorandum: > > I have been asked by the author to post the following memorandum: > > MEMORANDUM > > TO: Whom It May Concern > > FROM: H.F.W. Perk > > RE: Initial Concept for Buckmister Fuller Centennial Celebration > > As a member of the Board of Directors of the Buckminster Fuller Institute, > I know that plans are underway in various parts of the world to recognize > Fuller's 100th birthday (July 12, 1995). As a faculty member at Southern > Illinois University at Carbondale who came here upon Bucky's recommendation > in 1964 I hope to initiate a major design science "festival/gala/circus/ > recognition/remembrance/prognostication/charette/party" during the period > July 1-24, 1995. > > o RETROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 1-11 will be a gathering of Fuller's friends, > associates, students, and other interested persons to share in a variety of > "show-and-tell" hands on, participatory, design science activities (build > domes, play the World Game, participate in "Building a New World", explore > synergetic geometry, make tensegrity structures, learn about buckminster- > fullerene and its possibilities, explore "income energy" devices ...); > > o INTROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 12 will be the "birthday/memorial/ > centennial global comprehensive anticipatory design party"; > > o PROSPECTIVE PHASE: July 13-24 will utilize the Syntegration protocol > of Stafford Beer to engage 360 design scientists in planning the launch > of the "World Design Decade 1995-2005", aimed at generating strategies > to implement the "World Livingry Service Industry" to help achieve the > conversion from "killingry to livingry" on a global scale during that > decade. > > The proposed SIU Fuller Centennial Celebration extends over a 24 day > period inn order that design science activities in each of the world's > 24 time zones could be recognized (possibly via satellite telecommunication), > at the rate of one time zone per day throughout this period. > > Bucky was born in the era of sailing ships, worked in the era of the > aircraft, witnessed the birth of spaceships, and envisioned the "World > Four" era of instantaneous global communication as one requiring all of > us to once again become as "children at play" to learn how to cope with > this strange new environment, unprecedented in human experience. (The > transition from Bucky's "World One" to "World Four" has effectively > shrunk the planet by a factor of one billion: humans have no prior > experience with such a world, and how to make it work successfully and > sustainably.) > > The scale of this event will require the cooperation of many persons, > of whom I trust you will be one. > > -End of memo- > > All interested persons may contact Professor Perk through the Department > of Community Development, Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, IL, > 62901-4530; or through my electronic mail address, ST7743@SIUCVMB > > Bill Hall > Bill-- I am thrilled that someone is doing something for Bucky's centennial. Keep me updated on the planning for the event. Thanks. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 03:56:40 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Barry Tisdale Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Subject: Dome kit for sale... I have a Timberline 5/8 dome kit, connectors only (no lumber) for sale for best offer. Included are blueprints for their "Cedar" 40' dome home, sample strut cuts, all manuals, etc. Blueprints are certed by CA architect, all engineering calculations included for easy local architect sealing. The weight is around 650#, all parts will fit in 3' cube box. I'm in southeast Michigan. Further details on request. Barry (btisdale@delphi.com) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 10:58:03 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: Synergetics tutorial In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 2 Oct 1994 03:37:42 -0700 from On Sun, 2 Oct 1994 03:37:42 -0700 Kirby Urner said: >Still extremely primitive, but I'm excited about my newfound ability >to put my own web pages online. For those of you with web browsers, >the www address below (signature line) will take you to my home page. >Choose "local overview" of synergetics to see my first efforts. I >know Fuller said something about not showing unfinished work, but >then synergetics will never be "finished" -- and certainly not my >webified versions of it. Anyway, I could use some help, if anyone I think it's a fine line between "finished" work and "unfinished" work. In one sense Fuller never did finish his work, so perhaps, he should not have released any of his work! I think Fuller meant one should avoid "vaporware". My experience shows that releasing carefully thought out alpha work offers many advantages. Whereas the times that I tried waiting until I had "production" quality work ... well, that work is still unfinished!! And will probably never get finished as my focus keeps changing. So my interpretation of the "ethic" is to do as careful and thorough a job as possible, then release it and learn (by experience) what the best balance (vapor-alpha-beta-production quality) for you. It seems that projects whose "time is ripe" work out very, very well when alpha work is released: other people volunteer to help make the work a high- quality production. >out there can (a) draw or (b) knows a source of polyhedron GIFs. I >looked in vain through all the web connections I could. Found lots >of things of interest, but something so basic as nice little GIFs of >polyhedra were not among them. If someone hasn't done this I'd be surprised. If I was at my Linux-box, I could whip out a bunch of these in short order. Use the POV-Ray program that has been mentioned before (freeware for Macs, DOS, Linux, and other Unixes) - I don't have my refs on this machine but archie should help. > >-- Kirby >------------------------------------------------ >Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) >4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/index.html >Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 03:50:08 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Another Essay >From http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/syn4.html -- a page on the World Wide Web (original has embedded links and a GIF). More Synergetic Nonsense Kirby Urner, October, 1994 The distinction between angle and frequency corresponds to the distinction between pure mind, comprised wholly of exceptionless principles (a tautology?) and the conditioned realm of fearful, struggling mortals trying to make it aboard Spaceship Earth. Fuller placed great hope in what he termed "ephemeralization" (Toynbee: etherialization), whereby the metaphysical or know-how component of cultures would overcome physical limitations to providing a healthy, happy living environment for everyone, on a sustainable basis of course. One might say our physical solutions become "raptured" as they increasingly partake of heavenly omniscience -- then again, one might not. The Euler-Gibbs dichotomy deserves some explanation. Euler's Law deals with the purely topological aspects of polyhedra, and hence qualifies as "angular" in the full-spectrum, multi-valent, synergetic sense of that word. Gibbs developed what he called his Phase Rule, which relates the number of phases of a substance present at any one time to its temperature, pressure, and number of chemical components. Fuller tried to relate Euler's Law and the Phase Rule as part of a greater, largely intuitive effort to think about the interface between metaphysical principles and the visceral world of chemical being. Thinking of language as a chemistry i.e. a tangible, multimedia energy exchange between neuronic structures, we can ask about its phases, its rigidity, fluidity, and gaseous properties. Following Norman O. Brown's cue, we might identify rigidity with literal strictness of interpretation, an enforced or taken-for-granted mono-valence in meaning characteristic of a science cut loose from its moorings in philosophy or the humanities -- or of some kinds of fundamentalist religion. At the opposite extreme is Brown's symbolic consciousness (see Love's Body), which might be likened to a gaseous state wherein we are left completely unfettered by the literal ties that bind -- to some this might suggest a mind unhinged. A fluid, coursing, narrative stream of consciousness might run somewhere in between, rounding out our phase diagram of terra firma and environs. Synergetics might be read as modeling a homeostatic autopilot-like mechanism whereby the phases of language adjust with the environment. During some cycles in human history, a major 'revaluation of values' (Nietzsche) is needed to keep pace with the momentum of events, in which times the dreamy fluidity of the collective unconscious rises like a flood to assault the bastions of conventional rationality which have contrived to pass themselves off as exempt from the eternal law that "all things must pass." Fuller's Grunch of Giants has just the fantastic, storybook-like qualities characteristic of language so unleashed. With artistic control from years of self-discipline, Fuller permits himself what the rest of us cannot, given our bodies electric and their strait-jacketing obedience to reflex. He takes on the hallowed legal concept of "the Corporation", playing on childhood fears of giants (adults), and adult paranoia about all-controlling capitalists, to give the story of David versus Goliath new meaning and urgency. How else to undermine the literal legal narrative which sustains the Inc. practice of trashing the planet now while passing liability on to the next generation? To turn over the playing field and begin new games on the back side requires letting loose, flinging the sling, sending words spinning along new trajectories, precessionally altering the contextual media matrix. This is mythmeister Fuller in his role as chief overturner. Monkeys devolved from beamed-aboard humanoids, half of which split to become dolphins and whales? What do we make of this trickster? Shall we protest? Laugh? Counter-attack? How did these outlandish ideas get published anyway, where were the reviewing peers? In the publish or perish atmosphere of academia, Fuller must be viewed as an unrepentant outlaw, peerless among pirates. And aren't outlaws beheaded? So why did President Reagan give him the Medal of Freedom? Fuller's contribution does not make much sense according to conventional wisdom (an oxymoron?) and so the easiest response is to forget about it, or to recycle the more useful inventions minus their uncomfortable associations with a bigger design. But Fuller's 'pattern integrity' does not unravel so easily. Every knot in his narrative is a hypertext link to another, and so on to give us a whole. His web of supranational networkers was and is world-around. And a giant buckyball sits like an empty signifier in the heart of Grunch's shrine. ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 18:52:34 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "" Subject: Re: Geodesic activity in Minnesota? >I've since seen some of their literature and I'm wondering how these >people can build geospheres (and make _money_ off of it) and never >mention Bucky. Is the BFI aware of this effort? Don't get me wrong, >I _want_ them to do what their doing, I just like to see Bucky get >the credit he deserves (and which serves a useful purpose: Bucky's >idea of showing what a single individual can do and all that). > >Kevin >On the Front Lines with the Bucky Police How they can do it is a different question as to why they would do it. Perhaps they simply did not pay too much attention to acknowledgements. In any case, it is very likely that they have the legal grounds to do what they want with many of Bucky's inventions, since many patents have no doubt long since expired. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mitch C. Amiano amiano@delphi.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 21:57:06 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: IRCG Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Dialectic, Cosmos, and Society Call for Papers DIALECTIC, COSMOS, AND SOCIETY Journal Call for Papers Dialectic, Cosmos, and Society, an international, interdisciplinary journal, invites contributions from researchers in the natural and social sciences, philosophy and theology, and the arts. 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Email ircg@aol.com. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 23:26:10 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Grego10067 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Dialectic, Cosmos, and Society Call for Papers In article <3729ti$g9t@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, ircg@aol.com (IRCG) writes: Oh great!, so you want to charge 40 bucks for your magazine, and then you want to ask your readers to write it for you as well,................come on now!!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 18:10:06 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Beshears Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: domes made from cardboard and fiberglass I read a book about creating shelters from cardboard and fiberglass. I actually made a miniature one from a piece of thin cardboard. This was very interesting. I am sure it would not pass local building codes but what they don't know won't hurt them. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 09:59:47 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: SGoddard@AOL.COM Subject: Great! Construction can start... Dear GEO-POD, Thank you for responding to my email. What an incredible system. We would love to sent photos of the students projects. I'll keep you posted. My address: Shannon Goddard 593 Paradise Road, Salinas, CA 93907-8738 Yours sincerely, Shannon (6th grade math/science/arts & technology teacher) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 03:51:05 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: Geodesic activity in Minnesota? X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "uucp" at Oct 4, 94 06:52:34 pm Dear Mitch: I was at EPCOT in Orlando, Florida, earlier today. I was attending meetings nearby. The Geosphere ride called "Spaceship Earth" was closed. The sign read: "Spaceship Earth is being refurbished for your future enjoyment." Besides lifting nearly intact Bucky Fuller's themes for this "theme" park, they feature his inventions and ideas freely around the park and even in new projects like "Innoventions" without properly crediting Bucky. At a book signing in 1982 in Beverly Hills, Bucky met Ray Bradbury for the first time. Ray Bradbury rather sheepishly admitted that he wrote the script for the Spaceship Earth ride. Bucky Fuller was not invited to attend the Grand Opening of EPCOT, although it was known to the company that Bucky was working in nearby Deland, FL during that period of time. Adding even more insult to injury, Bucky had been hired by Disney's creative department to lecture Disney artists and designers in Burbank for three days in 1977 or 78. Although Bucky was granted nearly 30 patents during his lifetime, he almost voluntarily cooperated with efforts to implement his ideas. Disney however took the ball and ran with it. Bucky was not one to resort to litigation (see Legally Piggily, in Critical Path), which does not mean his feelings were not hurt in such instances of ripoffs of creative properties. As I once proposed in 1981, if Disney conceded sales of Dymaxion Maps at EPCOT, all of Bucky's work present and future could have been funded. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya Your message of 10/4/94: > > >I've since seen some of their literature and I'm wondering how these > >people can build geospheres (and make _money_ off of it) and never > >mention Bucky. Is the BFI aware of this effort? Don't get me wrong, > >I _want_ them to do what their doing, I just like to see Bucky get > >the credit he deserves (and which serves a useful purpose: Bucky's > >idea of showing what a single individual can do and all that). > > > >Kevin > >On the Front Lines with the Bucky Police > > How they can do it is a different question as to why they would do it. > > Perhaps they simply did not pay too much attention to acknowledgements. > > In any case, it is very likely that they have the legal grounds to do > what they want with many of Bucky's inventions, since many patents have > no doubt long since expired. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mitch C. Amiano > amiano@delphi.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 09:55:54 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Michael Sklaroff Subject: Re: domes made from cardboard and fiberglass In-Reply-To: <199410082327.AA24680@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> On Sat, 8 Oct 1994, Beshears wrote: > I read a book about creating shelters from cardboard and fiberglass. I > actually > made a miniature one from a piece of thin cardboard. This was very > interesting. > I am sure it would not pass local building codes but what they don't > know won't > hurt them. What was the book? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 09:54:10 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: James Bailey Organization: Lewis and Clark College, Portland OR Subject: dome homes? I'm thinking about adding a 30' diameter dome to my house. I am planning to create three stories within the dome (the thrid floor would of course be small). My question is simple: am I nuts to want to use this kind of structure for this purpose? Jim Bailey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 20:47:21 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: GIFs needed for World Wide Web pages I'm gradually putting together World Wide Web pages (some uploaded) attached to my home page, saved locally on disk space allotted to my account, which impart information about Fuller and synergetics to the world. I realize others have embarked on similar efforts and I've done my best to link to pages (either directly, or through other pages) to all those I know about. Realizing that not all of us have (a) the access or (b) the time but do have (a) scanning ability or (b) ray tracing or other picture generating tools, I am posting some of the images I would like to share with the world via the web. I have written to the Fuller Institute to find out what their policy will be vis-a-vis cyberspace usage of images over which the estate may have legitimate claim (polyhedra are obviously public domain, but handmade sketches thereof by Fuller are generally not). Any images (thumbnail GIFs, small, roughly 200 x 200 or thereabouts) that might invoke copyright issues, I will run by BFI for permission, and not use if they don't want me to. Anyway, some needed items for the Web Museum: Synergetics: A & B mods rhombic triaconta showing E mod (tetrahedral section) Two rhombic dodecas with inscribed spheres "kissing" at diamond face ctrs 8 packed wire frame VEs with octahedral void outlined in other color Inventions: EPCOT "buckyball" (yes, the Disney one in particular) Montreal Dome TIME Magazine cover (reduced size) Dymaxion Car Dymaxion House Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 07:52:02 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: GIFs needed for World Wide Web pages X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Kirby Urner" at Oct 9, 94 08:47:21 pm On October 9th, Kirby Urner wrote: > > I'm gradually putting together World Wide Web pages (some uploaded) > attached to my home page, saved locally on disk space allotted to my > account, which impart information about Fuller and synergetics to the > world. I realize others have embarked on similar efforts and I've > done my best to link to pages (either directly, or through other pages) > to all those I know about. > > Realizing that not all of us have (a) the access or (b) the time but > do have (a) scanning ability or (b) ray tracing or other picture > generating tools, I am posting some of the images I would like to > share with the world via the web. > > I have written to the Fuller Institute to find out what their policy > will be vis-a-vis cyberspace usage of images over which the estate > may have legitimate claim (polyhedra are obviously public domain, > but handmade sketches thereof by Fuller are generally not). Any > images (thumbnail GIFs, small, roughly 200 x 200 or thereabouts) > that might invoke copyright issues, I will run by BFI for permission, > and not use if they don't want me to. > > Anyway, some needed items for the Web Museum: > > Synergetics: > A & B mods > rhombic triaconta showing E mod (tetrahedral section) > Two rhombic dodecas with inscribed spheres "kissing" at diamond face ctrs > 8 packed wire frame VEs with octahedral void outlined in other color > > Inventions: > EPCOT "buckyball" (yes, the Disney one in particular) > Montreal Dome > TIME Magazine cover (reduced size) > Dymaxion Car > Dymaxion House > > Kirby > My reply: Kirby-- I may be able to help you locate some of the drawings and other pictures you mention in your posting. I still have several filing cabinets of RBF typescripts, etc., which have yet to be sorted, cataloged, and returned to the Buckminster Fuller Institute. Critical Path was just awarded a highly competitive purchase order grant from the National Library of Medicine. It is the last major piece of our complement of grants which will give us Internet host capabilities. We hope to implement World Wide Web and WAIS in the next 60 days, with our $10,000 contract. We have just installed 8 phone lines and are undergoing an upgrade of all eight of our 14.4 modems to a new standard of 28.8 (US Robotics). We also purchase an intelligent 8-port Digiboard and a Cisco router this month, and we negotiate a contract with PrepNet, our Internet service provider. There is much work to do on our Internet gateway but when we are fully implemented by the end of the year we should have the capability of serving as a state-of-the-art repository of such databases as the one you describe in your posting. --Kiyoshi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 12:10:02 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Dome Fan Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: dome homes? In article <37977i$nc9@sun.lclark.edu>, bailey@sun.lclark.edu (James Bailey) writes: > I'm thinking about adding a 30' diameter dome to my house. I am >planning to create three stories within the dome (the thrid floor would of >course be small). My question is simple: am I nuts to want to use this >kind of structure for this purpose? Jim, Using a geodesic dome as an addition to your house makes a lot of sense. As you have already surmised, adding a 3rd floor will not provide much room to a 30' dome. One option that I have seen is using a cupola with a floor for the third floor viewing area. This provides 360 degree views and does not take up much room. Timberline Geodesics offers a 30' 5/8 sphere that would offere enough height and room for the cupola. In addition, their cupola design is the best around. You can give them a call at 1-800-DOME-HOME or: Timberline Geodesics 2015 Blake Street Berkeley, CA 94704 Ph: 510-849-4481 Fax: 510-849-3265 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 16:04:29 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: SteveW7562@AOL.COM Subject: Syntegration Protocol Could someone explain what Stafford Beer's Syntegration Protocol is? It's referred to by Prof. Perk in his Fuller Centennial memo. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 12:54:46 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Adam David Organization: Veda Systems, Iceland Subject: tensegrity bicycle? I was wondering what the lightest strongest structure and materials would be for building a bicycle or other light human-powered craft. Suggestions? -- Adam David ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:04:32 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Robert L. Read" Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Subject: Re: tensegrity bicycle? I suggest you look at the "Gossamer Albatross", an airplane powered only by an extremely althletic human being, that came within yards of completing the mythical flight of Daedalus, over some very large stretch of the Mediterranean. I believe a starting place would be National Geographic, which had an article on it, I don't know when, or the normal library approach. I believe this craft used honycombed paper, some kind of platic sheating, (steel?) cables, and either some kind of expensive and light wood or aluminum. The idea of building a tensegrity bicycle sounds like a wonderful project; are you aware of the solar bicycle prototypes and high-speed bicycles that tend to use a reclining postion and completely encompassing cowlings to reduce aero-drag? Best wishes. -- Robert L. Read, Member of the League for Programming Freedom ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:11:30 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: BTISDALE@DELPHI.COM Subject: Dome for sale. I have a Timberline 5/8 dome kit, connectors only (no lumber) for sale for best offer. Included are blueprints for their "Cedar" 40' dome home, sample strut cuts, all manuals, etc. Blueprints are certed by CA architect, all engineering calculations included for easy local architect sealing. The weight is 700#, all parts will fit in 3' cube box. I'm in southeast Michigan; shipping was $360.00 from CA 2 yrs ago. I also have the Cutting plans w/ engineering calcs, that were $225. The floor plans, sealed by an architect in CA were $225. I paid $3840.00 for the connectors; as they're no longer available as a separate item, that's probably a fair price again today. I couldn't see paying someone else (i.e., Timberline) to select the lumber, cut it and then ship it 3000 miles. For liability reasons, they stopped selling 'connector only' kits soon after I purchased the kit. The whole package for $3840.00, shipping COD. I also have very detailed floorplans compatible with Draft Choice of a floorplan of my own design, with a 2 car garage under an extension. My advice would be to get all the specs and prices from Timberline (or someone else) and get familiar with what you want to do. The reason I didn't wind up building here had _nothing_ to do with the dome kit. My place of employ is slowly going under & its necessary to relocate under different circumstances than originally planned. Any other info cheerfully supplied. BTW, you should look firsthand at some owner-built domes; list of owners from Timberline. Barry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 23:34:03 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Grego10067 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Cardboard Domes YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!, Yes carsboard is a great material to construct geodesic domes with, and you can coat it with many different substances to make it weatherproof. some uses are third world countries that can not afford wood structures, as well as homeless shelters in this country, and camping structures for the rest of us, Keep up the good work!...... GEO-POD Systems ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:27:28 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: tensegrity bicycle? X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Robert L. Read" at Oct 11, 94 03:04:32 pm Robert Read wrote: > > I suggest you look at the "Gossamer Albatross", an > airplane powered only by an extremely althletic human > being, that came within yards of completing the > mythical flight of Daedalus, over some very > large stretch of the Mediterranean. > > I believe a starting place would be National Geographic, > which had an article on it, I don't know when, or > the normal library approach. > > I believe this craft used honycombed paper, some > kind of platic sheating, (steel?) cables, and > either some kind of expensive and light wood or > aluminum. > > The idea of building a tensegrity bicycle sounds > like a wonderful project; are you aware of the > solar bicycle prototypes and high-speed bicycles that > tend to use a reclining postion and completely > encompassing cowlings to reduce aero-drag. Robert-- The Gossamer Albatross frame was constructed largely of carbon fiber, and other state-of-the-art high-strength, low weight materials. It had a 90-foot wingspan and yet was light enough (40#) to be lifted by one person with one arm. The bicycle wheel is already a tensegrity design and many competition racing bicycles use carbon fiber frames. With the advancement of materials science, we could conceivable see buckytubes used as high-strength cables in a second or third generation Gossamer Albatross. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Bill Long Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA Subject: Re: tensegrity bicycle? >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:04:32 -0500 >From: "Robert L. Read" >Subject: RE: tensegrity bicycle? >Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin > >I suggest you look at the "Gossamer Albatross", an >airplane powered only by an extremely althletic human >being, that came within yards of completing the >mythical flight of Daedalus, over some very >large stretch of the Mediterranean. I'm not sure but I think you have your human-powered aircraft mixed up. This is off the top of my head , so I may not have the numbers quite right. The Gossamer Albatross did complete the first human-powered flight over the English Channel, a distance of about 19-20km. It's sister craft, the "Condor", which holds the distinction of being the plane that won the Kremer prize for flying a figure-8 around two pylons a half mile apart, is hanging at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. Both were designed by Dr. Paul MacCready, who also designed the first successful solar-powered airplane...the "Gossamer Penguin". MacCready described the Condor as consisting of six sticks with 72 piano wires that connected everything to everything else. The human-powered airplane that made the Mediterranean crossing (from the Greek mainland to an island?) was actually named the "Daedalus", after the mythical figure. I can't recall who designed it but the length of the flight was something like 70km (at least I think it was around 43 miles), an ended with a water landing just shy of the shore. As far as I know, this is still the record distance for a human-powered flight. I hope I got the facts right, or at least close...if not I welcome corrections. Bill Long >-- StarGazer longwj@137.142.18.1 longwj@snyplava.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 14:09:11 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Bill Long Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA Subject: Re: tensegrity bicycle? >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:53:20 -0500 >From: Bill Long >Subject: RE: tensegrity bicycle? >Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA > >The human-powered airplane that made the Mediterranean crossing (from the >Greek mainland to an island?) was actually named the "Daedalus", after the >mythical figure. I can't recall who designed it but the length of the >flight was something like 70km (at least I think it was around 43 miles), >an ended with a water landing just shy of the shore. As far as I know, >this is still the record distance for a human-powered flight. > >I hope I got the facts right, or at least close...if not I welcome >corrections. Well a quick trip to the library has netted some more acurate info. The "Daedalus 88" made its flight on April 23, 1988 from Crete to an island called Santorini. The total distance was 116.6km (72.4 mi.), duration of 3 hours and 55 minutes, and crash-landing was 30 yards from Perissa Beach due to a gust breaking one of the wings. It was designed and built by a team of engineers and students from MIT which was headed up by John S. Langford. The team worked on several aircraft leading up to the Daedalus...the BURD, Chrysalis, Monarch, and the Michelob Light Eagle, which of these is closest to the Daedalus design and set records for human-powered flight in 1987. The Eagle also was(is?) displayed at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum. It is NOT a tensegrity type frame as is the case with the Gossamer Condor and Albatross. Bill Long >-- StarGazer longwj@137.142.18.1 longwj@snyplava.bitnet ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 20:41:41 -0600 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Edward H Campbell Subject: buckminster fuller i am interested in hearing about your group. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:52:43 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Adam David Organization: Veda Systems, Iceland Subject: Re: tensegrity bicycle? Robert Read wrote: > The idea of building a tensegrity bicycle sounds > like a wonderful project; are you aware of the > solar bicycle prototypes and high-speed bicycles that > tend to use a reclining postion and completely > encompassing cowlings to reduce aero-drag. I see a kind of totally enclosed frame, probably with more than 2 wheels to minimise the effect of sidewinds on a totally faired structure. I still have problems visualising the actual structure of the frame, but more wires and fewer tubes obviously makes for a lighter frame. -- Adam David ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:09:40 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kevin Sahr Organization: Forest Sciences Laboratory Subject: Q: Copyright on Dymaxion Map? I am aware that the Buckminster Fuller Institute has a copyright on Fuller's Dymaxion Air-Ocean map. I am also aware of (and have seen) Fuller's original patent on the map projection used. I was wondering, does anyone know exactly what BFI's copyright covers? Does it cover just reproduction of images produced by BFI? Does it limit the ability of others to make there own versions of Bucky's map using their own facilities? Thanks! Kevin ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 20:26:09 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: Q: Copyright on Dymaxion Map? >I am aware that the Buckminster Fuller Institute has a copyright >on Fuller's Dymaxion Air-Ocean map. I am also aware of (and have >seen) Fuller's original patent on the map projection used. > >I was wondering, does anyone know exactly what BFI's copyright >covers? Does it cover just reproduction of images produced by >BFI? Does it limit the ability of others to make there own >versions of Bucky's map using their own facilities? > >Thanks! > >Kevin > > I don't know if anyone knows. Tony @ BFI is circulating my request to BFI to put Dymaxion Projection on the Web. Promises to get back to me within weeks. Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 09:54:17 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY A GRAND STRATEGY TO SOLVE GLOBAL PROBLEMS: A SUMMARY OF THE IDEAS OF R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER BY JOE S. MOORE THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF MAN THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ENOUGH TO GO AROUND FOR EVERYONE---THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SCARCITY. THEREFORE, THE BASIC PROBLEM WAS: WHO GETS WHAT? WHO SURVIVES AND WHO DOESN'T? EVERY SOCIETY HAS HAD A DIFFERENT SYSTEM FOR DECIDING THAT QUESTION, AND WHICH GROUP SURVIVED WAS USUALLY DECIDED BY WAR! BUT JUST BECAUSE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE THAT WAY IN THE FUTURE. JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS SCARCITY IN THE PAST, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE HAS TO BE SCARCITY IN THE FUTURE? NO! MANKIND NOW HAS ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO INVENT OUR WAY INTO A FUTURE OF PLENTY. WE ARE JUST NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY. ACCORDING TO THE ENGINEERS, THE WORLD'S INDUSTRIAL SYSTEM IS NOW OPERATING AT ONLY ABOUT FOUR PERCENT EFFICIENCY, BUT IT COULD EASILY BE IMPROVED TO AN AVERAGE OF TWELVE PERCENT. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS START USING ALREADY EXISTING INVENTIONS AND STOP BEING SO WASTEFUL! OK. THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT HAVING TWO OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH WEALTH WOULD NOT DO MUCH GOOD IF THE WORLD'S POPULATION KEEPS GROWING. LUCKLY, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT AS INDUSTRIALIZATION INCREASES, THE GLOBAL BIRTH RATE DECREASES. AS THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY PER PERSON INCREASES, THE BIRTH RATE DECREASES, SO THAT IF THE WORLD IS COMPLETELY INDUSTRIALIZED BY ABOUT THE YEAR 2010, THE TOTAL POPULATION SHOULD PEAK AT ABOUT 6 BILLION AND THEN START DECLINING. THEREFORE, IF WE ONLY DOUBLE THE AVERAGE EFFICIENCY WE COULD EASILY TAKE CARE OF THE WORLD'S PRESENT ONE BILLION POOR (THE OTHER FOUR BILLION ARE ALREADY "MAKING IT" NOW). AND IF WE TRIPLE THE EFFICIENCY WE COULD NOT ONLY TAKE CARE OF ANY FUTURE POPULATION GROWTH, BUT DRAMATICALLY RAISE EVERYONE'S STANDARD OF LIVING. (THE FIGURES THAT I HAVE USED ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE. THE EFFICIENCY COULD PROBABLY BE RAISED MUCH HIGHER, COMPLETE INDUSTRIALIZATION COULD BE ACHIEVED MUCH FASTER, AND POPULATION GROWTH SLOWED DOWN MUCH FASTER. IT IS BETTER TO UNDERSTATE THAN OVERSTATE.) SO, WE ARE NOT ON A TREADMILL; THERE IS A WAY OUT. THERE IS A PRACTICAL STRATEGY. HOW, SPECIFICALLY, CAN WE RAISE THE EFFICIENCY? HOW CAN WE GET MORE ENERGY, USE LESS MATERIALS, AND USE LESS TIME TO PROVIDE FOR OUR BASIC NEEDS? WHAT DO WE NEED? LOTS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY, PLENTY OF FOOD, DECENT INEXPENSIVE HOUSING, MEDICAL CARE, EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND COMMUNICATION TO NAME THE BASICS. ENERGY FIRST: WE NEED TO DEVELOP ABOUT A DOZEN TYPES OF RENEWABLE SOURCES OF ENERGY AND WE NEED TO DEVELOP WAYS OF DISTRIBUTING THAT ENERGY. WE NOW HAVE THE KNOW-HOW TO CONNECT TOGETHER ALL THE WORLD'S ELECTRICAL GENERATING PLANTS. THAT ONE PROJECT WOULD ALMOST DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY AVAILABLE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MOST GENERATING PLANTS RUN AT ABOUT HALF CAPACITY AND USE THE OTHER HALF FOR PEAK DEMAND ONLY. BY INTERCONNECTING THEY COULD ALL SWAP POWER (ESPECIALLY BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND DARK SIDES OF THE EARTH) AND THEREFORE BE RUN AT ALMOST PEAK CAPACITY MOST OF THE TIME--- WITHOUT BUILDING ANY NEW GENERATING PLANTS. WE MUST ALSO PHASE IN ALL THE VARIOUS TYPES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY AS THE FOSSEL FUELS START TO RUN OUT. THERE ARE PLENTY OF ALTERNATIVES TO CHOOSE FROM: SOLAR, WIND, HYDROELECTRIC, BIOMASS, ALCOHOL, GEOTHERMAL, TIDES, PHOTOVOLTAIC, HYDROGEN, WAVES, ETC. ALL THESE ALTERNATIVES, WHEN FULLY DEVELOPED, WOULD NOT ONLY REPLACE THE NON-RENEWABLE, POLLUTING, AND DANGEROUS SOURCES, BUT GIVE US THREE TIMES AS MUCH ENERGY AS WE HAVE NOW (NOT COUNTING THE GAINS THROUGH INTERCONNECTING). SO WE CAN HAVE PLENTY OF ENERGY IF WE WANT IT. THERE IS NO ENERGY SHORTAGE! THERE IS JUST A SHORTAGE OF AWARENESS OF WHAT IS NOW POSSIBLE. THE CRISIS IS A CRISIS OF IGNORANCE. NOW, WHAT IS THE STORY FOR FOOD? MUCH THE SAME. WE PRODUCE MORE THAN ENOUGH FOOD FOR EVERYONE, BUT MUCH OF IT ROTS OR IS EATEN BY RODENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MEANS OF STORING, PRESERVING, AND TRANSPORTING IT. BUT, WITH ADEQUATE ENERGY WE COULD GROW, PRESERVE, AND DISTRIBUTE PLENTY OF FOOD FOR EVERYONE. IN FACT, IF NEEDED, WE COULD PROBABLY GROW TWO OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS WE DO NOW. AND SO, IF WE SOLVE THE ENERGY AND FOOD PROBLEMS, HOW DO WE PROVIDE GOOD, INEXPENSIVE HOUSING FOR EVERYONE? SIMPLE. SHELTER PEOPLE IN MASS-PRODUCED, SELF-CONTAINED, SURPLUS-ENERGY-PRODUCING GEODESIC DOME HOMES WHICH WOULD BE HELICOPTER-DELIVERED TO ANYWHERE FOR A TENTH THE COST OF CONVENTIONAL HOUSES. A GEODESIC SPHERE IS THE LIGHTEST, STRONGEST, AND CHEAPEST WAY OF ENCLOSING SPACE EVER INVENTED. DOMES CAN NOT ONLY HOUSE INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES, BUT THEY COULD COVER WHOLE CITIES---AND EVEN FLOAT IN THE AIR OR BE ANCHORED ON OR UNDER THE OCEANS. DOMED CITIES USE ABOUT 1/90TH THE ENERGY OF UNCOVERED CITIES, AND HAVE PERFECT CLIMATES ALL YEAR ROUND---NO MATTER WHAT THE OUTSIDE CLIMATE. SO, IF PEOPLE HAVE ADEQUATE FOOD, ENERGY, SHELTER, ETC., THEY ARE BOUND TO BE HEALTHIER. THE EASIEST WAY TO CONTROL DISEASE IS TO ELIMINATE ITS CAUSES, SUCH AS MALNUTRITION, BAD WATER, EXPOSURE, VERMIN, ETC. AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION IS CONCERNED, WE NEED TO MASS-PRODUCE ALREADY- INVENTED DUCTED-FAN AIR CARS THAT CAN GO ON ROADS OR RISE VERTICALLY ON JETS OF AIR. THIS WOULD ALLOW PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE WITHOUT ROADS. ALSO, WE NEED TO DEVELOP PERSONAL, MODULAR TRANSPORTATION PODS WHICH COULD GO ON ROADS, BE HOOKED TOGETHER IN GROUPS, BE LOADED ONTO TRUCKS, TRAINS AND BOATS, OR PUT INTO AIRPLANES FOR TRANSPORT ANYWHERE, WITH THE WHOLE GLOBAL SYSTEM SCHEDULED BY COMPUTER. DEVELOPMENT OF WIRELESS, SATELLITE RELAYED, TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS WILL ENABLE GREAT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE TO WORK AT HOME, WHEREVER THAT MAY BE IN THE WORLD, THUS CUTTING DOWN ON THE EXPENSE OF COMMUTING TO THE OFFICE. ALSO, EDUCATION WILL RETURN TO THE HOME BECAUSE STUDENTS WILL HAVE TWO-WAY MULTIMEDIA ACCESS TO ALL THE INFORMATION BANKS OF THE WORLD. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CALL UP THE BEST AND LATEST INFORMATION PRESENTED BY THE BEST TEACHERS IN THE WORLD. TWO-WAY VOICE, DATA AND FAX WILL ALSO BE TRANSMITTED BY SATELLITE, THUS CUTTING DOWN ON THE USE OF ENERGY AND MATERIALS AND SPEEDING UP THE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND INFORMATION. ALL THIS VAST INCREASE IN WEALTH AND DECREASE IN WASTE (TIME, ENERGY, MATERIALS) WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A MINIMUM LEVEL OF GUARANTEED ANNUAL INCOME FOR ALL WHICH SHOULD GRADUALLY INCREASE WITH TIME. PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO WORK LESS AND LESS AND WILL HAVE MORE AND MORE TIME TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT---STUDY, FISH, TRAVEL, THINK, ETC. ALSO, THE FEAR OF NOT HAVING THE BASIC NECESSITIES OF LIFE WILL BE GONE, AND THAT SHOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF WORRY, STRESS-CAUSED ILLNESSES, AND CRIME. BUT MOST OF ALL, IF PEOPLE NO LONGER HAVE TO FIGHT EACH OTHER OVER LIMITED RESOURCES, THEN THE BASIC REASON FOR WAR WILL BE GONE AND WAR WILL BECOME OBSOLETE. THE OLDEST DREAMS OF MANKIND---PEACE, PROSPERITY---WILL HAVE COME TRUE. PEOPLE LIVING NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, PRIVILEGE, AND RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP TO MAKE ALL THESE THINGS COME TRUE. ALL OF HUMANITY HAS STRUGGLED, DREAMED, HOPED, WORKED, AND PRAYED FOR THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY. IT IS UP TO US TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. CAPITOLA, CALIFORNIA, USA OCTOBER 19, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:18:19 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Nardi, Thomas" Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of WED 19 OCT 1994 12:54:17 EDT > > OK. THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT HAVING TWO OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH WEALTH > >WOULD NOT DO MUCH GOOD IF THE WORLD'S POPULATION KEEPS GROWING. LUCKLY, IT > >JUST SO HAPPENS THAT AS INDUSTRIALIZATION INCREASES, THE GLOBAL BIRTH RATE > >DECREASES. AS THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY PER PERSON INCREASES, THE BIRTH RATE > >DECREASES, SO THAT IF THE WORLD IS COMPLETELY INDUSTRIALIZED BY ABOUT THE > >YEAR 2010, THE TOTAL POPULATION SHOULD PEAK AT ABOUT 6 BILLION AND THEN START > >DECLINING. D > Can someone explain why the birthrate goes down? Is there a copy of Geodesic FAQ's going around. I would appreciate it if it was posted or sent to me. Thanks Tom Nardi "KVBR@MARISTB" or "KVBR@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:42:22 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: Q: Copyright on Dymaxion Map? X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Kevin Sahr" at Oct 19, 94 00:09:40 am Kevin: The Dymaxion Map patent (US Pat 2,393,676) is reproduced on pages 85-94 of Inventions: The Patented Works of R. Buckminster Fuller (St. Martin's Press, 1983). Both the projection method and the actual map were patented in 1946, with an update in 1954. As one of his last acts, RBF granted permission for Medard Gabel of the World Game to use the Dymaxion map in their work. At about that time, another issue was the fact that the patent was lapsing anyway. You should be able to get more information on the map's current status from BFI. They should also be able to supply you with a copy of the patent. If that is not possible, you can write the US Patent Office, or send me email and I will photocopy the patent and send it to you. Kiyoshi Kuromiya Forwarded message begins here: > > I am aware that the Buckminster Fuller Institute has a copyright > on Fuller's Dymaxion Air-Ocean map. I am also aware of (and have > seen) Fuller's original patent on the map projection used. > > I was wondering, does anyone know exactly what BFI's copyright > covers? Does it cover just reproduction of images produced by > BFI? Does it limit the ability of others to make there own > versions of Bucky's map using their own facilities? > > Thanks! > > Kevin > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:36:13 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Clayton Weir Subject: Re: Help with unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <9407151618.AA00822@ospi.wednet.edu> Many thanks for all of the information which you have provided over the past few months. At this time, however, my students no longer have need for information on geodesic domes. Please UNSUBSCRIBE us, effective this date. Again many thanks, Clayton ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 18:06:36 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY In-Reply-To: <9410191649.aa28689@cruzio.cruzio.com>; from "Nardi, Thomas" at Oct 19, 94 5:18 pm In my 24 years of studying Fuller, I have never been able to find a detailed study as to WHY the global birth rate declines as the energy per capita increases. Might be a good project for someone. -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 23:13:45 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY >> >>LUCKLY, IT >>JUST SO HAPPENS THAT AS INDUSTRIALIZATION INCREASES, THE GLOBAL BIRTH RATE >>DECREASES. D >> >Can someone explain why the birthrate goes down? Is there a copy of >Geodesic FAQ's going around. I would appreciate it if it was posted >or sent to me. > > >Thanks >Tom Nardi "KVBR@MARISTB" or "KVBR@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU" > But an hour ago, I was in a large auditorium listening to Carl Sagan talk about just this subject, without reference to Fuller of course. He cast it as close to a law of nature that once income per capita (in dollar terms, vs Fuller's kilo-watts) exceeds a minimum threshold (he said USD 500, I guess he meant per annum), that the birth rate drops dramatically. The poorest have the most kids because it makes economic sense owing to (a) high infant mortality and (b) the economics of a family struggling on its own -- more kids are a help, generally. But when it comes to higher income brackets, sights are set on (a) high level schooling for kids and (b) a possible career for the woman plus (c) the possibility of personal savings makes it less likely that the kids will be the sole source of support in old age. Not that we need Carl Sagan to tell us this. He did point out that in societies where women have little say or clout, the rising of incomes had no direct impact on birth rats. ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 07:46:17 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S ULTRA-MICRO COMPUTER AN ULTRA-MICRO COMPUTER BY JOE S. MOORE R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER PROPOSED A DESIGN FOR THE ULTIMATE (SMALLEST AND FASTEST) MICRO COMPUTER. A LOW VOLTAGE AC CARRIER OF A GIVEN FREQUENCY (LIGHT?) FED TO THE CENTRAL ATOM (RADIO TRANSMITTER ANTENNA) OF A CLUSTER OF IDENTICAL ATOMS (DIAMOND?) WILL GENERATE A SPHERICAL WAVE OF ENERGY WHICH WILL TRAVEL OUTWARD UNTIL IT RESONATES WITH THE LAYER OF ATOMS CORRESPONDING TO THE INPUT FREQUENCY. A MODULATING FREQUENCY MAY THEN BE TUNED TO INDIVIDUAL ATOMS IN THAT LAYER. VARIATIONS OF THE VERY LOW AC CURRENT WILL PERMIT ADDRESSING FOUR DIFFERENT SETS OF ELECTRONS PER ATOM. VARIATIONS OF VOLTAGE WOULD REPRESENT ZEROS & ONES. THE SAME PROCEDURE APPLIED TO THE POLES OF THAT CLUSTER OF ATOMS WOULD EXTRACT ANY STORED ENERGY (INFORMATION). THE NUMBER OF ATOMS PER SHELL MAY BE CALCULATED BY USING THE FORMULA: N = 10 (FREQUENCY SQUARED) + 2. A FLATTENED-OUT (UNFOLDED) VECTOR EQUILIBRIUM OR REGULAR TETRAHEDRON MAY BE USED TO MAP EACH SHELL (LAYER) OF ATOMS. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION SEE: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'SYNERGETICS' 1975 BY R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER PAGES 148-51, 167-71, 670-1 & 807 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'SYNERGETICS 2' 1979 BY R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER PAGES 98, 383-5, 453-9 & PLATE 11 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAPITOLA, CALIFORNIA, USA OCTOBER 20, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 16:58:28 EST/EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: DAMICO@GELMAN.CIRC.GWU.EDU Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY [snip..] > He > did point out that in societies where women have little say or clout, the > rising of incomes had no direct impact on birth rats. Those little rodents just keep getting born. Funny how a single letter changes the entire meaning of a sentence. > > ------------------------------------------------ > Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) > 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ > Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU > "Just call me Trimtab" {~~~| R. Buckminster Fuller ~~~| _______ | / \ | BDAMICO@GWUVM.GWU.EDU ___________/__________\______|_____ \ Trimtab: A tiny gear / Blaine A. D'Amico |\ which moves the rudder / Systems Specialist ~~~~~~ |__\ that turns great ships / ~~~~~ Design Science Revolutionary --------------------- Comprehensive Generalist ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 19:38:06 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Suzanne LaRocca Subject: I Seem To Be A Verb? In the early 1970's I came across a book written (or co-authored) by Buckminster Fuller called "I Seem to be a Verb". It was a paperback with a black and silver cover. One unique feature of the book was that it could be read three ways: the top half of the pages were read as an ordinary text; the bottom half of the pages were printed upside down and read from the back of the book to the front; through the middle of each page ran a continuous sentence that ran the length of the book. Art work was also included among text,collage-style. Sounds cool, yes? I haven't seen this book since about 1973 when I was 14. Was it all a dream? Can anybody help me find it? If so, E-mail me. I am Goodsculpt. Thanks ever so. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 21:16:55 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: I Seem To Be A Verb? >In the early 1970's I came across a book written (or co-authored) by >Buckminster Fuller called "I Seem to be a Verb". It was a paperback with a >black and silver cover. One unique feature of the book was that it could be >read three ways: the top half of the pages were read as an ordinary text; the >bottom half of the pages were printed upside down and read from the back of >the book to the front; through the middle of each page ran a continuous >sentence that ran the length of the book. Art work was also included among >text,collage-style. >Sounds cool, yes? I haven't seen this book since about 1973 when I was 14. >Was it all a dream? Can anybody help me find it? If so, E-mail me. I am >Goodsculpt. Thanks ever so. > Not a dream of course. I had a prized copy for a long time, but its binding gradually came loose and it disintegrated. If you enjoy book hunting, this would be a fine excuse for a Quest. Intuition is another hard-to-find. A book similar to I Seem to Be a Verb is Blast (one cover), Counter-Blast (the other cover). Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 00:28:38 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:18:19 EDT from On Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:18:19 EDT Nardi, Thomas said: >> >Can someone explain why the birthrate goes down? Is there a copy of >Geodesic FAQ's going around. I would appreciate it if it was posted >or sent to me. > I think the birthrate figures are tied into the standard of living of women which tends to come with economic health. See _Critical Path_ for some graphs. I have updated the FAQ through August posting. Problem with my FAQ is it's more a summary of old GEODESIC conversations. Good reading, but not yet distilled enough. Until I have a chance to spell check, and "clean" up the new version [In my dreams I think of breaking it up into separate sections: Domes, Synergetics, Who was Fuller (for those who don't know), etc,], you can get a copy of the last released FAQ by ftp from switchboard.ftp.com or from the listserv archives. If you really want the latest version, you can call me and I'll give dial-in instructions to my Linux-box here in Philly and you can dl it from my ~/fuller-faq directory. (Trust me it's not worth the long distance phone call :) Do enjoy! > >Thanks >Tom Nardi "KVBR@MARISTB" or "KVBR@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU" -- Christopher J. Fearnley | UNIX SIG Leader at PACS cfearnl@pacs.pha.pa.us | (Philadelphia Area Computer Society) fearnlcj@duvm.bitnet | Design Science Revolutionary fearnlcj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu | Explorer in Universe 503 S 44th ST | Linux Advocate Philadelphia PA 1914-3907 | (215)349-9681 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:52:17 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kevin Sahr Organization: Forest Sciences Laboratory Subject: Re: Q: Copyright on Dymaxion Map? In article Kiyoshi Kuromiya writes: >Kevin: > The Dymaxion Map patent (US Pat 2,393,676) is reproduced on pages 85-94 of >Inventions: The Patented Works of R. Buckminster Fuller (St. Martin's Press, >1983). Both the projection method and the actual map were patented in 1946, >with an update in 1954. As one of his last acts, RBF granted permission for >Medard Gabel of the World Game to use the Dymaxion map in their work. At >about that time, another issue was the fact that the patent was lapsing >anyway. You should be able to get more information on the map's current >status from BFI. They should also be able to supply you with a copy of the >patent. If that is not possible, you can write the US Patent Office, or send >me email and I will photocopy the patent and send it to you. > >Kiyoshi Kuromiya Thanks Kiyoshi. I do have a copy of the patent, but even if it were still current I'm not sure how binding it would be, since the patented version is a sub-divided cuboctahedron (as opposed to an icosahedron) and, as I think we discussed before, there are some problems with the method in the patent. The BFI seems uncertain as to the nature of the copyright they hold. What has prompted this inquiry, by the way, is the recent very disapointing interaction I have had with BFI over potential use of the dymaxion map. It is my current belief that the BFI is doing more to hinder the dissemination of Bucky's ideas than to facilitate them. In this case, I am afraid the basic concepts of the dymaxion map are going to shortly become national news, but not a single mention of Bucky will be made. As far as I can tell BFI is pretty much solely to blame for this sorry state of affairs. I am, to say the least, both very saddened and very angered by this. >Forwarded message begins here: >> >> I am aware that the Buckminster Fuller Institute has a copyright >> on Fuller's Dymaxion Air-Ocean map. I am also aware of (and have >> seen) Fuller's original patent on the map projection used. >> >> I was wondering, does anyone know exactly what BFI's copyright >> covers? Does it cover just reproduction of images produced by >> BFI? Does it limit the ability of others to make there own >> versions of Bucky's map using their own facilities? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Kevin >> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:56:42 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: John Brien Subject: Re: I Seem To Be A Verb? In-Reply-To: <199410210130.VAA01355@mail.uncc.edu> There is a bookstore in Cincinnati Ohio called Ohio Books that has a copy of _I seem to be a verb_ . I saw it about two week ago while at a Precision Engineering Conference. The price was about $2.00 and it was in good condition. The area code for Cincinnati is 513 and I'm sure information can get you the number of Ohio Books. Good Luck ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 23:20:35 JST Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Andreas Schneider i am looking for mac- software to construct geodesic domes. thanks for any hint, as andreas schneider fn +81- 43- 274 5531 fx +81- 3- 3723 9498 andreas@wni.com.jp ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:47:22 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: Q: Copyright on Dymaxion Map? X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Kevin Sahr" at Oct 21, 94 09:52:17 am ~`ffATDT463-7160 Kevin: I am sure others have the same feelings as you. I wrote letters to Grosvenor and others at the National Geographic in 1983 regarding the use of the Dymaxion Project for the new editions of National Geographic Maps that were being introduced for the next century. I understand how frustrating it is to change intractible organizations. By the way, I believe both the cuboctahedron and icosahedral versions of the map have been copyrighted. The patent is for the cuboctahedral version as published in Life Magazine in May of 1943. --Kiyoshi Forwarded messages begin here: > >Kevin: > > The Dymaxion Map patent (US Pat 2,393,676) is reproduced on pages 85-94 o f > >Inventions: The Patented Works of R. Buckminster Fuller (St. Martin's Press, > >1983). Both the projection method and the actual map were patented in 1946, > >with an update in 1954. As one of his last acts, RBF granted permission for > >Medard Gabel of the World Game to use the Dymaxion map in their work. At > >about that time, another issue was the fact that the patent was lapsing > >anyway. You should be able to get more information on the map's current > >status from BFI. They should also be able to supply you with a copy of the > >patent. If that is not possible, you can write the US Patent Office, or send > >me email and I will photocopy the patent and send it to you. > > > >Kiyoshi Kuromiya > > Thanks Kiyoshi. I do have a copy of the patent, but even if it were > still current I'm not sure how binding it would be, since the patented > version is a sub-divided cuboctahedron (as opposed to an icosahedron) > and, as I think we discussed before, there are some problems with > the method in the patent. > > The BFI seems uncertain as to the nature of the copyright they hold. > What has prompted this inquiry, by the way, is the recent very > disapointing interaction I have had with BFI over potential use > of the dymaxion map. It is my current belief that the BFI is doing > more to hinder the dissemination of Bucky's ideas than to facilitate > them. In this case, I am afraid the basic concepts of the dymaxion > map are going to shortly become national news, but not a single > mention of Bucky will be made. As far as I can tell BFI is pretty much > solely to blame for this sorry state of affairs. I am, to say the > least, both very saddened and very angered by this. > > >> > >> I am aware that the Buckminster Fuller Institute has a copyright > >> on Fuller's Dymaxion Air-Ocean map. I am also aware of (and have > >> seen) Fuller's original patent on the map projection used. > >> > >> I was wondering, does anyone know exactly what BFI's copyright > >> covers? Does it cover just reproduction of images produced by > >> BFI? Does it limit the ability of others to make there own > >> versions of Bucky's map using their own facilities? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Kevin > >> > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 08:55:33 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: SNELSON'S ELECTRON SHELLS MODELS An Improved Model of Electron Shells by Joe S. Moore In 1966 and 1978 a sculptor named Kenneth Snelson patented an improved way of modeling the various electron shells. His models reflect nature's geometry as discovered by R. Buckminster Fuller. Snelson's models demonstrate that there are only seven possible geometric shapes that the local electron orbits can take. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Design for the Atom", Industrial Design (mag) by Kenneth Snelson Feb 1, 1963 pages 48-57 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Model for Atomic Forms" Oct ?_, 1966 by Kenneth Snelson u.s.patent 3,276,148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Model for Atomic Forms" Jul 11, 1978 by Kenneth Snelson u.s.patent 4,099,339 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Portrait of an Atom: an Exhibition', Maryland Science Center, Baltimore, MD by Kenneth Snelson _?_ ?_, 1981 26 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 08:58:00 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S UNIFIED FIELD MODEL & FORMULA Nature's Unified Field by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller discovered nature's unified field which can account for all the various transformations of energy. He was able to express it as both a physical model and as the mathematical formula: t = 2 n (f squared) + 2. Unfortunately, the conventional scientific establishment has yet to recognize his monumental achievement! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 589-96, 677-8, and 810. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics II' 1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 57, 217-8, 239, 415, & 448, & plate 9. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:59:36 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: I Seem To Be A Verb? X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Suzanne LaRocca" at Oct 20, 94 07:38:06 pm "I Seem to Be a Verb" was published as a paperback in 1970 by Bantam Books (V6305), I don't know whether it is still available from the publisher, but I am sure there are copies floating around. The book is by R. Buckminster Fuller, with Jerome Agel and Quentin Fiore. It sold originally for $1.95, and I have two copies in my library. If you can't find another source, I can photocopy the book for you for $10 costs. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya Forwarded message begins here: > > In the early 1970's I came across a book written (or co-authored) by > Buckminster Fuller called "I Seem to be a Verb". It was a paperback with a > black and silver cover. One unique feature of the book was that it could be > read three ways: the top half of the pages were read as an ordinary text; the > bottom half of the pages were printed upside down and read from the back of > the book to the front; through the middle of each page ran a continuous > sentence that ran the length of the book. Art work was also included among > text,collage-style. > Sounds cool, yes? I haven't seen this book since about 1973 when I was 14. > Was it all a dream? Can anybody help me find it? If so, E-mail me. I am > Goodsculpt. Thanks ever so. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 12:22:11 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Joe Moore" at Oct 19, 94 06:06:36 pm Joe S Moore (joemoore@cruzio.com) wrote: > > In my 24 years of studying Fuller, I have never been able to > find a detailed study as to WHY the global birth rate declines > as the energy per capita increases. Might be a good project > for someone. > Joe-- I don't know if Fuller wrote a detailed explanation, but I think he left us enough clues so that we can interpret his observations of this data taken from his World Resources Inventory. Fuller in his World Resources Inventory equated energy with human work, hence his use of the concept of "energy slaves"--the amount of electricity required to replace the work of one human worker (slave). Next, you must examine Fuller's interpretation of quantum mechanics ("all multiplication is by division [of the whole]"). If the whole system (in this case, the Earth) has a finite complement of energy/matter, and if further, you consider human energy slaves and electrical energy slaves as being equivalent, then "the pie" can be divided proportion- ately between new human slaves or new electrical energy slaves. Such a unique and innovative way of looking at this correlate of the world birthrate was an earmark of Bucky's methodology. --Kiyoshi Kuromiya ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:21:02 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Rjbono Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Fuller's Ultra Micro Computer >R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER PROPOSED A DESIGN FOR THE ULTIMATE >(SMALLEST AND FASTEST) MICRO COMPUTER. Synergetics discusses the "Nuclear Computer". The technology needed to implement Fuller's vision is quickly becoming a reality. The key is the recently discovered ability to create "artificial atoms" with specific, user-designed electronic properties. Quantum confinement fields are the key to making this work (see January 1993 Scientific American for article on quantum confinement). The idea is to create a computational system based on synergetic geometry whose computational elements are artificial atoms. Since an atom can absorb and emmit photons of different frequencies it will be possible to communicate to other elements in parallel. Communications will partially overlap others. Such a computer would be very small and very fast. A collegue of mine wrote a paper called Computational Cosmography outlining the basic ideas. I have a paper entiitled Applied Computational Cosomosgraphy which enhances these ideas further. I am currently working on a more detailed paper outlining the implemenation of the nuclear computer. I will post copies of these if there is interest. The key is that computation based on synergetics will not look like our conventional von neumann machines of today. What is needed is an ability to gain insight into the nature of the problems we want a computer to solve. Since most natural problems involve synergetics (being as it is, the geometry of nature) a properly designed nuclear computer would do more than simply crunch numbers in a brute force approach. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:37:54 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Rywalt Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, New York Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY In article <199410200614.XAA11729@teleport.com>, Kirby Urner writes: |> But an hour ago, I was in a large auditorium listening to Carl Sagan talk |> about just this subject, without reference to Fuller of course. He cast |> it as close to a law of nature that once income per capita (in dollar terms, |> vs Fuller's kilo-watts) exceeds a minimum threshold (he said USD 500, I |> guess he meant per annum), that the birth rate drops dramatically. In addition to the very human reasons Sagan mentioned, there is experimental evidence with rats which shows that the dropping birth rate may just be a survival mechanism. The experiment, as I read about it (please don't ask for a source, that grain slipped through the seive of my brain), consisted of controlling the food supply for a population of rats. A low food level resulted in a small population which eventually died out; a median food level resulted in a healthy surviving population; and an abundant food supply led to a high survival rate at first followed by the death of the population. I don't recall there being an mechanism to explain this counterintuitive result; however, I believe it's possible that humans have a survival mechanism not possessed by rats in a controlled experiment that may lead to the low birth rates noted in industrialized countries. Also, as I recently read in _Discover_ magazine, some studies have shown that an ecological system which is more productive seems to actually reduce the diversity of the species which live there. Apparently, species diversity is attained only at a very carefully balanced level of productivity; that is, a more fertile and inhabitable environment will actually have LESS diversity than a less hospitable environment. Chris. crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:46:13 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Rywalt Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, New York Subject: Re: I Seem To Be A Verb? In article <199410210417.VAA17557@teleport.com>, Kirby Urner writes: |> Intuition is another hard-to-find. I actually have a copy of _Intuition_ which I borrowed from my alma mater's library (and have since stolen, though I really do intend to return it). It was on my stack for scanning and OCRing, though it's not very accessible (it reads a lot like Fuller's ``Rethinking the Lord's Prayer'' and is therefore somewhat daunting). Chris. crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 10:09:45 JST Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Andreas Schneider Subject: Re: Fuller's Ultra Micro Computer dear Rjbono, i am very much interested in your paper 'Applied Computational Cosomosgraphy'- could you send me a copy? thank you very much, andreas schneider fn +81- 43- 274 5531 fx +81- 3- 3723 9498 andreas@wni.com.jp ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 11:46:58 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "John A. Skidmore" Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY In-Reply-To: <9410210619.AA02074@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> Just joined this list, no bio. In, the old days, before you could ask, I know, get to it. I'm looking for a plastic product Edmond Sci. used to stock Geo-Sticks, or anything like it. What I'm trying is to build a cage, for my bird, right now my parrot lives in a real cage. I don't need cord factors, I need modeling help.. Kinda like a ZOME. The fact is I need alot of hubs and struts...the only way i can figure, is to ask. Thanks John A. Skidmore z005615b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 12:56:19 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S QUARK MODEL Quark Models by Joe S. Moore Fuller discovered that the minimum shape that will compound with itself to fill all space is an irregular tetrahedron which he called the "MiTe" (minimum tetrahedron). And since energy as matter must have some kind of shape, and the minimum "thing" or shape (system) is a tetrahedron, Fuller's mite must be what the atomic physicists call a "quark"! All systems must have certain basic properties: 1) Clockwise or counterclockwise rotation or spin; 2) Opposite poles (with north either "up" or "down"; 3) Various volumes or energy contents (+ and - charges) 4) An inside and an outside; In addition, tetrahedra have the unique property of being able to easily turn themselves inside out to display eight (8) different faces. Therefore, in light of all of the above, it is possible to construct a quark chart listing all the various combinations of the above properties. This chart predicts a total of thirty-two (32) basic quarks (8 families, not 6) plus thirty-two inside-out versions (antiquarks) for a total of sixty-four (64) quarks. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 101, 535-9, 804-6. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics II' 1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 263, 416. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAPITOLA, CA, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 12:58:50 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: TETRAHEDRON AS UNITY Tet As Unity by Joe S. Moore If the radii of identical close-packed atoms have a value of one (1), then the distance between their centers is equal to two (2). Therefore, the basic unit vector of a tetrahedron formed by these atoms must also equal two (2). If a tetrahedron is made out of unit vectors with a value of 2, then the edges of a cube containing this same tetrahedron must have a value of the square root of 2 (or 1.4142136). This is how to convert from our present artificial ninety degree cubical system of measuring to nature's much simpler sixty degree system. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 588-90, 592-3 & 599 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Cosmography' 1992 by R. Buckminster Fuller page 224 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 08:38:08 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kiyoshi Kuromiya Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY X-cc: rich@cpp.pha.pa.us In-Reply-To: from "Chris Rywalt" at Oct 21, 94 06:37:54 pm Kirby-- Several decades ago rats were used in experiments on population density. When the rats in an enclosed space reached a certain high density, what occurred was a "behavioral sink" in which the rats started acting more and more erratic until they literally began eating each other. Since we are on the subject of rats, in another controlled experiment, one group of rats were placed very close to a television monitor screen, and a second group was placed similarly close to a television screen shielded by a lead barrier. The group of rats which got the direct radiation from the CRT reacted in a very specific way: first, they became hyperactive; next, they became very lethargic; and finally, they died. What's a rat to do? --Kiyoshi Forwarded messages begin here: > Kirby Urner writes: > |> But an hour ago, I was in a large auditorium listening to Carl Sagan talk > |> about just this subject, without reference to Fuller of course. He cast > |> it as close to a law of nature that once income per capita (in dollar terms , > |> vs Fuller's kilo-watts) exceeds a minimum threshold (he said USD 500, I > |> guess he meant per annum), that the birth rate drops dramatically. > > In addition to the very human reasons Sagan mentioned, there is experimental > evidence with rats which shows that the dropping birth rate may just b e > a survival mechanism. > The experiment, as I read about it (please don't ask for a source, that grain > slipped through the seive of my brain), consisted of controlling the > food supply for a population of rats. A low food level resulted in a > small population which eventually died out; a median food level result ed > in a healthy surviving population; and an abundant food supply led to a > high survival rate at first followed by the death of the population. > I don't recall there being an mechanism to explain this counterintuitive > result; > however, I believe it's possible that humans have a survival mechanism > not possessed by rats in a controlled experiment that may lead to the > low birth rates noted in industrialized countries. > Also, as I recently read in _Discover_ magazine, some studies have shown that > an > ecological system which is more productive seems to actually reduce th e > diversity of the species which live there. Apparently, species > diversity is attained only at a very carefully balanced level of > productivity; that is, a more fertile and inhabitable environment will > actually have LESS diversity than a less hospitable environment. > > Chris. > crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 11:31:27 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: b j Altschul Subject: World Game Hello, everyone---Is there any literature floating around about Bucky's World Game ideas? I had attended one of the "previews" held in conjunction with the World Future Society Conference back in the early 1980s but have long since cleaned out some of those files and don't remember details, just a broad, fuzzy idea. I'd like to refresh myself on what Bucky had in mind and what the status is of the World Game today. In particular, I'm curious to compare his original concept(s) with the kind of communication that has started burgeoning with the Internet and, specifically, Freenets. How much progress can we make toward resolving conflicts and distributing resources now that this technology is diffusing among both grassroots and in-power organizers? Regards, b j Altschul (Ms., just in case you're wondering about my initials) bja@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 09:32:41 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: NATURE'S 60 DEGREE FRAMEWORK A Sixty Degree Coordinate System by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller discovered that nature is using a sixty degree coordinate system (the tetrahedron), not ninety degrees (the cube)! If humanity were to convert to nature's system, we would not need to use all kinds of irrational constants such as pi, etc. All our measurements and calculations would be simplified and come out in nice round numbers (tetrahedional units). For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 80-105. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by Robert Marks & R. Buckminster Fuller pages 38-49, 142-7. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 108-19. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Buckminster Fuller: An Autobiographical Monologue/ Scenario' edited by Robert Snyder 1980 pages 114-24. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA OCTOBER 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 09:34:16 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: NATURE'S GEOMETRY Nature's Geometry by Joe S. Moore Although the discovery of the geometrical basis for all of nature's designs was published by R. Buckminster Fuller over thirty years ago, "modern" society still does not seem to be aware of this monumental achievement! All of the physical universe is made out of energy either radiant or tied up in knots called atoms. A given amount of energy traveling in some direction for a certain amount of time is called a "vector". The only self-stabilizing combination of vectors is the triangle. Only three basic systems can be constructed out of equilateral triangles: tetrahedra, octahedra, and icosahedra. Therefore, all of nature must be built up from some combination or multiple of only those three basic systems! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by Robert Marks & R. Buckminster Fuller pages 142-47. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 314-19. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics II' 1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 151-59. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Fuller's Earth' 1984 by Richard J. Brenneman pages 91-92. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A Fuller Explanation' 1987 by Amy C. Edmondson pages 38-39. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 11:14:52 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: FULLER'S GRAND GEODESIC STRATEGY > Since we are on the subject of rats, in another controlled experiment, one >group of rats were placed very close to a television monitor screen, and a >second group was placed similarly close to a television screen shielded by a >lead barrier. The group of rats which got the direct radiation from the CRT >reacted in a very specific way: first, they became hyperactive; next, they >became very lethargic; and finally, they died. > What's a rat to do? >--Kiyoshi > Birth rats, death rats. I'm feeling lethargic right now. Up all not in a windowless hospital tech room, programming my cath lab registry program. Long white halls, cheese at the end of some of them (cafeteria). The metaphor is complete. Sagan, sharing the stage with his brilliant wife, waddled around the stage imitating a chimp. Did a long narrated pantomime of a chimp fishing for termites with a stick. Their basic thesis: human political systems such as the ones which came close to, and may yet, wreck everything, are based on chimp programming, perpetuated to this day. Big news. Chimps also demonstrate altruism and other positive human qualities. Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 11:22:03 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: NATURE'S 60 DEGREE FRAMEWORK > A Sixty Degree Coordinate System > > by Joe S. Moore > > > > R. Buckminster Fuller discovered that nature is using a sixty degree >coordinate system (the tetrahedron), not ninety degrees (the cube)! > If humanity were to convert to nature's system, we would not need to use >all kinds of irrational constants such as pi, etc. > All our measurements and calculations would be simplified and come out >in nice round numbers (tetrahedional units). > For further information see: I suppose we could resurrect the PI thread at this point. I like Kiyoshi's New York Times quote saying, in essence, that non-terminating numbers may be fine for fast computers with their algorithms, but nature stops. Doesn't "round off", just doesn't run those algorithms in the first place. As Bucky liked to point out, gazillion bubbles forming in the wake of a ship do not rely on any computational methods involving gazillion digit PI. It's not hard for me to conceive of nature's processing algorithms (i.e. energy involving, informational, experiential, episodes) being essentially PI-less. Even our calculators and computers stop at digit x. No one has ever computed with purely irrational numbers. To say all computation is therefore approximation is more absurd than simply saying irrational numbers have no physicality. Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 11:43:36 -0700 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Kirby Urner Subject: Re: FULLER'S QUARK MODEL > And since energy as matter must have some kind of shape, and the minimum >"thing" or shape (system) is a tetrahedron, Fuller's mite must be what the >atomic physicists call a "quark"! I say the mighty mite is a might. Geometrically, its way cool -- an allspace filling tetrahedron (both positive and negatives required, unless you want to have mite-shaped holes). Energetically, my brain breaks down. Synergetics wordmeaning trajectories and the wordmeanings of particle physics may be in a merging/converging pattern, as Fuller hoped. Whether 'mite' will cospiral in the same geodesic as 'quark' is a tough call. It might. Kirby ------------------------------------------------ Kirby T. Urner email: pdx4d@teleport.com (public access node) 4D Solutions www: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/ Portland (PDX), Oregon "All realities are virtual" -- KU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 14:42:51 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: VIRUS SHELLS MODELS Geodesic Virus Shells by Joe S. Moore The spherical viruse's protein shells are all some type of geodesic structure and use R. Buckminster Fuller's formula: 10 (frequency squared) + 2 For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Structure of Viruses", Scientific American (magazine) by R. W. Horne Jan 1, 1963 pages 48-56 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Symmetry in Virus Architecture", Virology (magazine) by R. W. Horne & P. Wildy 1965 vol 15, pages 348-73 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A Spectrum of Mathematics' edited by J. C. Butcher 1971 pages 98-107 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Viral Map", Time (magazine) by staff Sep 23, 1985 page 71 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The First Human Retrovirus", Scientific American (magazine) by Robert C. Gallo, Jan 1, 1987 pages 89-90 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 14:41:22 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: DNA MODELS Bucky's DNA Model Joe S. Moore The DNA genetic code is made out of only four proteins: adenine, thymine, guanine, and cytosine or a, t, g, and c which always form only two pairs: a-t and g-c. These proteins can be arranged into spiraling tetrahedra. Two sets of spiraling tetrahedra can be mated together to form a model of dna. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Design Initiative' 1963 by R. Buckminster Fuller page 61 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 518-24. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'tetrascroll' 1982 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 52-4. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:14:46 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: LOW-DISTORTION MAPPING Low Distortion Mapping by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller found a way to translate information from curved to flat surfaces and vice versa in such a way that there was minimal distortion of the data. His technique works for polygons whose edges are equal, such as a tetra- hedron, octahedron, cube, icosahedron, vector equilibrium, dodecahedron, etc. He preferred the icosahedron because it has the greatest number of equalateral triangles. It makes no difference whether the data is on the outside or inside surface. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "U. S. Industrialization", Fortune Magazine by R. Buckminster Fuller Feb 1, 1940 pages 50-57. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fluid Geography", The American Neptune Magazine by R. Buckminster Fuller Apr 1, 1944 pages 119-36. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dymaxion Map" by R. Buckminster Fuller Jan 29, 1946 U. S. patent # 2,393,676 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by Robert Marks & R. Buckminster Fuller pages 50-1, 150-9. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 85-94. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:16:54 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: CONSTANT ZENITH PROJECTION CAD-CAM Constant Zenith Projections by Joe S. Moore Way back in 1943 R. Buckminster Fuller published a new method of transferring information from any surface to a flat surface (or vice versa) with the least possible amount of distortion. It doesn't matter what the shape or size of the thing the information is on, whether it is solid or hollow, or if the data is on the inside or outside surfaces. Specification beforehand of the appropriate base system (tetrahedron, octahedron, icosahedron, ve, cube, etc.) and the level of accuracy (frequency) would give each vertex a unique address (altitude and azimuth) leaving the only variables to be the lengths of the various radii. His method would lend itself elegantly to modern CAD/CAM efforts in designing everything from ultra-micro computers to jumbo jets. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "R. Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion World" by staff, Life magazine Mar 22, 1943 pages __-__. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dymaxion Map" by R. Buckminster Fuller Jan. 29, 1946 U. S. patent # 2,393,676 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 701-24. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics II' 1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 451-60. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:18:10 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: 3-WAY WEAVING Three-Way Weaving by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller has pointed out that a 3-axis (triangular) weave is far superior to a 2-axis (square or 2-way) weave. 3-way weaves have 4 times the tear resistance of conventional weaves and resist spreading (runs). 3-axis weaving can be used to increase the durability and decrease the cost of many types of fabrics such as clothing, nylon stockings, parachutes, sails, tarps, tents, screens, nets, etc. Tennis and raquetball rackets using 3-axis stringing have 60% more ball- to-string friction for better control, more power, a larger sweet spot, less vibration, and superior shock dispersion. Any flat, round, or irregular shape can be woven such as hats, baskets, balls, and even geodesic domes! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics II' 1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 385-86. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 13-14. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A Fuller Explanation' 1987 by Amy C. Edmondson pages 232-33. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:21:52 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: REVERSE SUSPENSION STRUCTURES Aspension Buildings by Joe S. Moore In 1964 R. Buckminster Fuller patented a method of designing buildings using, in effect, reverse suspension. Instead of hanging down, the components hang up! This method cuts weight and costs and makes the structure earthquake resistant. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Richard Buckminster Fuller", Architectural Design (magazine) edited by John Mchale Jul 1, 1961 page 313 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Ideas and Integrities' 1963 by R. Buckminster Fuller page 95 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Aspension" Jul 7, 1964 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 3,139,957 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figures # 53-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks illustrations 262-63 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Mind's Eye of Buckminster Fuller' by Donald W. Robertson 1974 pages 69-75 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1983 pages 201-13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Cable Domes", Popular Science (magazine) by John Free Nov 1, 1987 pages 88-89 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:44:46 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GEODESIC BIODOMES Hi-Rise Food Factories by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller envisioned multi-story, geodesic dome, automated food factories. For more information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figures 73-6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 293-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R.Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 187-9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Buckminster Fuller: An Autobiographical Monologue/Scenario' edited by Robert Snyder 1980 page 204 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 327-9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Biodome" Jun 11, 1982 by the Windstar Foundation Snowmass, Colorado, USA 6 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 3' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 72-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:46:23 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FLOATING BREAKWATER GENERATORS Floating Breakwater/Generator by Joe S. Moore In 1979 R. Buckminster Fuller patented an economical breakwater that not only floated, but also could be adapted to generate significant amounts of electricity. A passing wave would lift one end of a triangular tube, thereby forcing the water inside to flow through a generator at the other end. This invention would allow the development of harbors at many locations, especially the numerous islands around the world that are uninhabited because they have no harbor and cheap source of energy. It would also be a significant additional source of clean, renewable energy. For more information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Floating Breakwater" Jan 30,1979 by R. Buckminster Fuller U. S. patent # 4,136,994 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 269-73 and 281-85 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume IV' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 295-96 and 363-65 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 16:00:04 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GLOBAL BIRTHRATE VS. ENERGY Energy vs Population by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller noticed while reviewing available global statistics that as an area's per capita energy consumption increased, the average birth rate for that area decreased! This fact has held true for every country of the world as it went through the process of industrialization. As the world's energy per capita goes up, the world's birth rate will go down. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventory of World Resources, Human Trends & Needs: Doc 1-The World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1971 pages 157-67 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Earth, Inc.' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1973 page 168 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Energy, Earth and Everyone' by Medard Gabel 1975 page 120 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Ho-Ping: Food For Everyone' by Medard Gabel 1979 page 230 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1981 pages 206-07 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 16:01:49 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GEODESIC DOME ENCLOSED CITIES Dome-Enclosed Cities by Joe S. Moore Dome-enclosed cities use about 90 percent less energy to heat and cool than exposed cities because a dome has less surface exposed to the elements. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Why Not Roofs Over Our Cities?", Think (magazine) by R. Buckminster Fuller Jan-Feb 1968 pages 8-11 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 353-54 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Age of the Dome", Build International (magazine) by R. Buckminster Fuller Jul-Aug 1969 pages _?_-_(9) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- '50 Years of the Design Science Revolution and the World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1969 pages 104-9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 169 & 234 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:34:30 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GEODESIC CLOUD CITIES Huge Floating Sky Cities by Joe S. Moore Fuller calculated that as geodesic tensegrity domes got larger than one half mile in diameter they would be able to float in the sky like clouds! Because the air inside the dome would be warmer and therefore lighter than the air outside, the whole dome would float like a hot air balloon! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 356-7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks page 235 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fuller's Symphony of Triangles May One Day Float 19 Miles Above Earth" by Bruce Dallas, Monterey Peninsula Herald (newspaper) May 6, 1979 page _?_(1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lighter Than Air", Construction Specifier (magazine) by E. C. Okress, C. C. Von Stetten, & R. K. Soberman Jan 1, 1980 pages_?_(10) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1981 pages 336-7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:36:07 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: DOME CHORD FACTORS CHART T A B L E S O F G E O D E S I C D O M E C H O R D F A C T O R S BY JOE S. MOORE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOURCE PAGE TYPE ----F R E Q U E N C I E S---- CLASS METHOD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GEODESICS BY 7 ICOSA , , , , , , , , , , ,12, , , , , II _ EDWARD 19 " , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , __ _ POPKO 20 " , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , __ _ 1968 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOMEBOOK 1 PACIFIC 51 ICOSA 1,2,3,4,5,6, , , , , , , , , , , I _ DOMES 52 " ,2, ,4, ,6, ,8, , , , , , , , , II _ 1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOMEBOOK 2 109 ICOSA 1,2,3,4,5,6, , , , , , , , , , , I _ 110 " ,2, ,4, ,6, ,8, , , , , , , , , II _ BY 111 " ,2,3; 2, 3 I _ 111 " ,2, ,4; 2, , 4 II _ PACIFIC 112 " , ,3,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I 2 112 " , , ,4, ,6, , , , , , , , , , , II 1 DOMES 112 OCTA , , ,4, ,6, ,8, , , , , , , , , -- - 113 " , , ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 1971 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOME BUILDER'S 94 ICOSA 1,2,3,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - HANDBOOK 1 95 " ,2, ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , II - BY 95 OCTA ,2,3,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - J. PRENIS 96 " ,2, ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , II - 1973 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DOME 40 OCTA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 42 " ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , II - NOTES 50 " ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 51 " ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 62 ICOSA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - BY " " 1, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 63 TETRA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 64 OCTA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - PETER " ICOSA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - " HEX , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - HJERSMAN 65 OCTA , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - " ICOSA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 68 " ,2,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 1975 69 " ,2, ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , II - 85 TECU -- - 142 ICOSA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 184 " ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLYHEDRA: A 100 DODEC 1,2,3,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - VISUAL 101 ICOSA 1,2,3,4,5,6, , , , , , , , , , , I - APPROACH 102 OCTA 1,2,3,4, ,6, , ,9, , , , , , , , I - BY 103 CUBE 1,2,3,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 104 TETRA 1,2,3,4, 6, , , , , , , , , , , I - ANTHONY 105 " 1,2,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - PUGH 106 ICOSA , ,3,4, ,6, , , , , , , , , , , -- - 107 OCTA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 1976 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 OCTA , ,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , I 1,2 GEODESIC 67 ICOSA , , , , , , ,8, , , , , , , , , II 3 86 OCTA , , ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - MATH 88 ICOSA ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 90 " ,2, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , I - AND 91 OCTA , , ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 97 ICOSA , ,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - HOW 98 " , ,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - 110 OCTA , , , , ,6, , , , , , , , , , , -- - TO 111 " , , , , ,6, , , , , , , , , , , -- - 116 ICOSA , , ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - USE 117 " , , ,4, , , , , , , , , , , , , I - 121 OCTA , ,3, , , , , , , , , , , , , , -- - IT 126-7 " , ,3, , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , I - 128 " ,2, ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , , , I - 129-30 " ,2, , ,5, , , , , , , , , , , , I - 132-4 " , , ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, II - BY 135-6 " , , , , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , II - 138-9 ICOSA , , , ,5, , , , ,10, , , , , , , I - 140-1 " ,2, ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , , , I - 142 " , ,3, , ,6, , , , , , , , , , , I - HUGH 144-5 " , , , , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , II - 146 " ,2, ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , , , II - KENNER 148 TETRA , ,3, , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , I - 149-50 " , , ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, I - 151 " , , , , , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, II - " " , , , , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , II - 1976 153-4 ICOSA , , ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , , , II 3 155-6 " , , , , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , II 3 157 OCTA , , ,4, , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, II 3 158-9 " , , , , ,6, , , , , ,12, , , , , II 3 160 TETRA , , , , , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, II 3 161 ICOSA , , ,4, ,6, ,8, , , , , , , , , II 3 " OCTA , , ,4, ,6, ,8, , , ,12, , , ,16, II 3 " TETRA , , , , , , ,8, , , , , , , ,16, II 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:37:32 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: CURVED OCTET TRUSS STRUCTURES Curved Octet Structures by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller patented the octet truss in 1961. Octet trusses can not only be flat but formed into all sorts of curved shapes, such as cigar-shaped hulls for use in airplanes, ships, submarines, cars, trains, silos, tanks, or any other volume-enclosing shapes. The tension and compression elements may be separated out to reduce the weight and cost. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octet Truss" May 30, 1961 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 2,986,241 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dome Builders' Handbook No.2' 1978 by William Yarnall page 112 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity Module Structure & Method of Interconnecting the Modules" by Christopher J. Kitrick Jun 17, 1980 U.S.patent 4,207,715 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 286-93. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ultimate Load Behaviour of a Barrel Vault Space Truss",Space Structures(mag) by Tan T. Hoe & Lewis C. Schmidt 1986-87 vol 2 #1, pages 1-10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Bombers' 1987 by Robin Cross pages 88-89 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:39:19 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: STRESS ANALYSIS OF GEODESIC DOMES Stress Analysis of Geodesic Domes by Joe S. Moore Geodesic domes should be analyzed as hydraulic or pneumatic structures. For more information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Stresses in Framed Surface Domes" (masters thesis, N.Carolina State Univ) by R. Feng 1962 _?_ pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Study of the Stability of Framed, Triangulated Geodesic Domes Under the by R. J. Aguilar Action of Concentrated Loads" doctoral thesis, N Carolina State Univ 1964 _?_ pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Membrane Forces & Buckling in Reticulated Shells",Journal StructuralDiv,ASCE by Douglas T. Wright Feb 1, 1965 pages 173-201 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Steel Space Structures' _?_ __, 1965 by Z. S. Makowski pages 62-3, 72-6, 123 & 149-55 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Buckling of Framed Domes", Engineering Journal, A. I. S. C. 2(4) by Kenneth P. Buchert _?_ __, 1965 pages 120-1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figure 14. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "3/4 Three Frequency Icosahedron-Alternate Geodesic Dome, Mathematical by David L. Wasley Structural Analysis & Physical Tests" Marin Co.Bldg.Dept, San Rafael, CA Feb __, 1971 _?_ pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Domebook 2' by Pacific Domes 1971 page 114 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dome Notes' 1975 by Peter Hjersman pages 89-106 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesic Math and How to Use It' 1976 by Hugh Kenner pages 1-35 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Vol 3' edited by James Ward 1985 page 15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:42:55 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S DRY RECYCLING TOILET A Waterless Toilet by Joe S. Moore In 1981 R. Buckminster Fuller invented a dry-packaging toilet which did not need any water or sewer pipes. Hermetically sealed plastic packets would be placed in cardboard boxes. The "waste" could then be converted into methane and fertilizer either on o r off site. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 310-15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Stop the Five Gallon Flush', McGill Univ, Canada 1980 edited by Alvaro Ortega & Witold Rybczynski page 29 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:44:54 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GLOBAL ENERGY STORAGE & DISTRIBUTION GRID A Global Energy Production, Storage and Distribution System by Joe S. Moore As far back as 1955 R. Buckminster Fuller envisioned a comprehensive global system of energy production and distribution that would be the physical basis for mankind's future prosperity. He calculated that for everyone to have a "bare maximum" (decent) standard of living would require at least 40 megawatts per person per year. The world presently produces about 20 mw/person/year of which about 90% comes from nonrenewable sources which are estimated to be used up within the next 20 years or so! However, 16 different types of renewable energy could produce 10 times as much energy as we have now or 200 mw/person/year! These renewable sources could be fed into a global distribution system that would be capable of handling both east-west (daily) and north-south (monthly) fluctuations in demand. He also proposed a global system of high mountain, pumped-storage lakes to act as "batteries" to store surplus energy and release it when needed. With such a global energy generation and distribution system many economies of scale (savings) would be realized. He pointed out that development could take place in stages over a 50 year period with an ultimate goal of at least 1,000 times as much energy as the world has now (or 20,000 mw/person/year). For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Earth, Inc.' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 150 & 165-8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Energy, Earth and Everyone' by Medard Gabel 1975 pages 31, 106, 109, 116-7 & 123 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Energy Economics", Journal of Ekistics by R. Buckminster Fuller, May 1, 1978 pages 170-1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages xxxii & xxxiii ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:47:19 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S FOG GUN CLEANING SYSTEM Fuller's Fog Gun Cleaning System by Joe S. Moore As far back as 1948 R. Buckminster Fuller demonstrated a design for a scientific method of cleaning. 'Dymaxion World...' states: "His fog gun....afforded a new kind of bathing. It combined compressed air (200 psi) and atomized water with triggered-in solvents. The kinetic force of the high-pressure air stream was utilized without the skin-damaging effect unavoidable in high- pressure needle-pointing of water streams....." "....A one-hour massaging pressure bath used only a pint of water. If fog gun bathing were done in front of a heat lamp, all the sanitary and muscle-relaxing effects of other types of bathing could be effected without the use of any bathroom." This idea could also be adapted to washing dishes, clothes, vehicles, etc. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 99-100 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Water Conservation & the Mist Experience', McGill Univ, Montreal, Canada by Alex Morse, Vikram Bhatt, & Witold Rybczynsky 1978 60 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:08:11 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FREE AIR CONDITIONING Free Air Conditioning by Joe S. Moore In 1940 R. Buckminster Fuller discovered a way to cool buildings using only the natural thermodynamic laws of nature. The warm air thermal rising above a dome would pull warm air out from large openings around the bottom of a dome, thereby pulling bernoulli-effect cooled air in through a relatively small opening at the top of the dome. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Ideas and Integrities' 1963 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 221-3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Domebook 2' 1971 by Pacific Domes page 82 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 124-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller page 211 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:10:19 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S SELF-CONTAINED PORTABLE DOME HOME Hi-Tech House by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller designed a portable, self-contained, spherical, geodesic dome home that captured renewable energy through wind turbines, solar panels, and methane generators fitted into various round openings. Compressed air stored in the framework would power most appliances. It would be earthquake resistant and could withstand winds of over 200 mph and sell for about ten percent the cost of conventional homes!!. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 354-56 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 18-20, 61 & 209 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 310-15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'R. Buckminster Fuller Sketchbook' 1981 by University City Science Center pages 6 & 46-53 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 214-26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:12:26 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S ICOSAHEDRA TRUSS Icosa Truss by Joe S. Moore Icosahedra may be assembled together into flat or curved trusses. The tension and compression components may be separated out to reduce weight and cost. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 428-31 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'An Introduction to Tensegrity' 1976 by Anthony Pugh page 59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity Module Structure & Method of Interconnecting the Modules" by Christopher J. Kitrick Jun 17, 1980 U.S.patent 4,207,715 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:15:18 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: LINEAR OCTET TRUSS STRUCTURES Linear Octet Buildings by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller proposed hollow linear octet truss buildings. They could be constructed on land or water and could have roads, rapid transit, parks, marinas, etc. on the inside. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The World of Buckminster Fuller", Architectural Forum (magazine) edited by Peter Blake Jan-Feb 1972 pages 91 & 95 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Buckminster Fuller Retrospective", Architectural Design (magazine) edited by Michael Ben-Eli Dec 1, 1972 pages 759 & 762 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Vol 4' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 233-34 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:21:06 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: MILE WIDE DOME COVERED CITY Mile-Wide Crater City by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller proposed a one mile diameter crater city which would have living facilities for 125,000 people on the outside slope and public facilities on the inside slope. The sides of the crater would be hollow and contain rapid transit, roads, utilities, etc. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Buckminster Fuller Retrospective", Architectural Design (magazine) edited by Michael Ben-Eli Dec 1, 1972 pages 771-2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 315-23 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 4' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 279-87 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:30:14 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S OCTA-TETRA-HEDRA TRUSS The Oc-Tet Truss by Joe S. Moore The combination of octahedra and tetrahedra produces a truss that has no redundency and it therefore is extremely strong and lightweight. It can produce just about any shape desired and since the components are all the same length, it may be easily mass-produced. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Tetrahedral Principle in Kite Structure", National Geographic (magazine) by Alexander Graham Bell Jun 1, 1903 pages 219-51 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Aerial Locomotion", National Geographic (magazine) by Alexander Graham Bell Jan 1, 1907 pages 1-27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octet Truss" May 30, 1961 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 2,986,241 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Steel Space Structures' 1965 by Z. S. Makowski 220 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia Or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller page 91 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 57, 170-75 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Mind's Eye of Buckminster Fuller' 1974 by Donald W.Robertson pages 50-52 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 248-55 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A Fuller Explanation' 1987 by Amy C. Edmondson pages 141-42 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octet Structures Using Tension and Compression" by Russell Chu & Tony S. Gwilliam Dec 8, 1987 U.S.patent 4,711,062 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:32:27 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: OCTAHEDRON SPACE STATION Octet Columns Space Station by Joe S. Moore A space station based on R. Buckminster Fuller's tensegrity octet truss has been proposed. It would be in the shape of a gigantic octahedron. People would live and work inside the hollow struts. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octet Truss Expansion System", Synergetica journal,Bucky Fuller Institute,CA by Russell Chu Nov 1, 1986 pages 10-16 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octet Structures Using Tension and Compression" by Russell Chu & Tony S. Gwilliam Dec 8, 1987 U.S.patent 4,711,062 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity", Synergetica jrnl, Buckminster Fuller Institute,Santa Barbara,CA by Russell Chu Jun 1, 1988 pages 1-35 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:33:58 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S OCTAHEDRA TRUSS Octahedra Trusses by Joe S. Moore Both regular and stretched octahedra can be used to build all kinds of structures such as floors, roofs, walls, towers, hulls, spheres, etc. These components can be flat, curved, vertical, horizontal, single or double layered. The octahedra may be built of panels, struts, or separated tension and compression elements. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Octahedral Truss" 1967 by R. Buckminster Fuller U. S. patent # 3,354,591 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figures 82-86 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity Truss" 1980 by Christopher J. Kitrick U. S. patent # 4,207,715 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'NASA Technical Briefs' Summer 1981 by National Aeronautics & Space Administration pages 211, 230 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 248-55 and 286-90 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 3' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 399-400 and 410-12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:45:55 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: PAPERBOARD GEODESIC DOMES Low-Cost Housing by Joe S. Moore One of the fastest and cheapest ways of mass-producing geodesic domes is by using paperboard manufacturing machinery and printing presses. Thousands of domes per day costing only pennies per square foot could easily be produced and shipped all over the world. The cardboard would be treated so that it was fireproof, bugproof, rotproof, and waterproof. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Building Construction" 1959 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 2,881,717 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Laminar Dome" 1965 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 3,203,144 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'the Dome Builder's Handbook' 1973 edited by John Prenis pages 85-88 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 61-2, 212-15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Paper Houses' 1974 by Roger Sheppard, Richard Threadgill, & John Holmes 115+ pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'the Mind's Eye of Buckminster Fuller' 1974 by Donald W. Robertson pages 40-42 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 145-56, 227-40 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Vol 3' 1985 edited by James Ward pages 237-8, 290-8, 358-61 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:47:30 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: EMERGENCY SHELTER DOME PARACHUTES Emergency Shelter Parachute Domes by Joe S. Moore In a 1954 report to the marines R. Buckminster Fuller made a proposal for an air-dropped emergency shelter. A foldable geodesic dome parachute would be attached to a box containing all the necessary equipment to make the dome shelter self-contained. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A Study of Shelter Logistics for Marine Corps Aviation' by Col. Henry C. Lane, U. S. Marine Corps 1954 page 100 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "An Experiment In Quick Construction", St.Louis Post-Dispatch (newspaper) by Robert E. Hannon Jan. 15, 1956 page 7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 199-200 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 11:48:47 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: POLARIZED OCTAHEDRA STRUCTURES Two Mile High Towers by Joe S. Moore The top triangle of an octahedron may be rotated so that it is pointing in the same direction as the bottom triangle. The octahedron is now said to be "polarized". Polarized octas may be stacked vertically and horizontally to form all kinds of structures. In 1966 fuller did a design feasibility study in which he proved that 12,250 foot high towers could be built using existing technology. These towers would be about five times higher than the presently highest tower. Tor further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A Two-Mile Tower?", Materials and Methods (magazine) by staff Nov 1, 1967 pages 156-57 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 349-50 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1980 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 337-39 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 4' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 83-91 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 24, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:28:14 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: HAVES VS HAVENOTS Haves vs Have-Nots by Joe S. Moore As far back as 1952 R. Buckminster Fuller pointed out that the percentage of poor in the world as compared to total population has since 1900 been steadily declining. In the last 337 years the percentage of the world's population that were poor has gone from about 99% to less than 30% in spite of the fact that the earth's population has increased from less than one billion to five billion+ today! Throughout all history before 1900 approximately all (99%) of humanity was poor. His explanation for this abrupt change in the human condition was that mankind had finally learned through an increasing understanding of the laws of nature how to "do more with less". In other words, science and inventions alone can account for our sudden wealth! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 330-32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventory of World Resources, Human Trends & Needs: Doc 1-World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1971 pages 157-65 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 52-5, 154-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 216-17 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Poverty Predicted to Decline-Problem Still 'Staggering', says World Bank" by Clyde H. Farnsworth, San Jose Mercury News (paper) July 16, 1990 pages 1a and 7a ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:29:36 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GEODESIC SPACE STATION Giant Geodesic Dome Satellites by Joe S. Moore As far back as 1954 R. Buckminster Fuller was working on lightweight, foldable structures which could be tightly packaged and later hydrolically or pneumatically opened up. Such structures could be useful on earth, the moon, and in space. Tensegrity domes have no inherent size limitations! He envisioned a mile-wide, double-skin, geodesic dome space station. Warm air trapped between the skins would cause it to float at the edge of space. An air-tight research capsule would be located inside. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 200-1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fuller's Symphony of Triangles May One Day float 19 Miles Above Earth" by Bruce Dallas, Monterey Peninsula Herald (newspaper) May 6, 1979 page _?_(1) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Plans For a City in Space", San Francisco Examiner & Chronicle (paper) by Bruce Dallas May 6, 1979 page a-19 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lighter Than Air", Construction Specifier (magazine) by E. C. Okress, C. C. Von Stetten, & R. K. Soberman Jan 1, 1980 pages_?_(10) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 24, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:30:51 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S SUSPENSION STRUCTURES Suspension Structures by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller's early experiments with tension led him to suspending structures from poles. He designed a multi-story skyscraper, a high-rise apartment and office building with a spiral roadway in the middle, a single family residence, a gas station, etc. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "4D House" Apr 1, 1928 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S. patent app 1,793 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tree-like Style of Dwelling is Planned", Chicago Evening Post Art World (mag) by R. Buckminster Fuller Dec 18, 1928 part III, page 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- '4D Time Lock' 1929 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 55-69, & 95-119 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dymaxion House" Mar 16, 1946 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S. patent app _,_?_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Instant Slum Clearance", Esquire (magazine) by June Meyer, Apr 1, 1965 pages 108-11 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- '50 Years of Design Science Revolution & the World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1969 pages 2-3, 9-13, & 32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 18-23, 74-6, 78-85, 94, & 128-41 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Buckminster Fuller: An Autobiographical Monologue/Scenario' edited by Robert Snyder, 1980 pages 53-59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 10-29 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 24, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:33:00 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: TENSEGRITY STRUCTURES Tension Integrity Structures by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller found ways to minimize the weight and cost of structures by maximizing the tension and minimizing the compression elements. He called it tension integrity or "tensegrity". Using these techniques it is possible to build structures of unlimited size!! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity", Portfolio & Artnews Annual # 4 (magazine) by R. Buckminster Fuller Spring 1961 pages 112-27, 148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tensegrity" Nov 13, 1962 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent 3,063,521 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 164-9, 201 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Mind's Eye of Buckminster Fuller' by Donald W. Robertson 1974 pages 58-64 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dome Notes' 1975 by Peter Hjersman pages 72-88 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1975 pages 372-431 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'An Introduction to Tensegrity' by Anthony Pugh 1976 122 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesic Math and How to Use It' by Hugh kenner 1976 pages 1-44 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 179-93, 241-55, 274-80, & 286-93 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 24, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:35:04 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: GEODESIC TENT DOMES Large Double Dome Tents by Joe S. Moore Large portable geodesic dome tents can be built by attaching a flexible interior skin dome to an exterior rigid skeleton dome. In tests by the U. S. Marines the tent skin did not flap in winds up to 120 mph. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Catenary Geodesic Tent" Nov. 24, 1959 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent # 2,914,074 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figs 21, 23, 25, 28-30, & 103 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Domebook 2' 1971 by Pacific Domes pages 41, and 48-9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dome Builder's Handbook' 1973 edited by John Prenis pages 18, 25-30, & 38 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pgs 186, 189, 191, 193, 204-7, & 221-3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 162-6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:40:56 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: TETRAHEDRONAL ANCHORING SYSTEMS Counter Tetrahedonal Anchoring by Joe S. Moore In 1963 R. Buckminster Fuller patented a method of anchoring structures so that they were horizontally stable under all conditions. He arranged two sets of tetrahedronally shaped anchors in such a way that they counter-torqued each other. For example, he foresaw the day when large passenger and cargo submarines would need to make transfers in mid-ocean. To that end, he designed large floating sub-surface ocean islands. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Submarisle" Mar 12, 1963 by R. Buckminster Fuller U. S. patent # 3,080,583 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 194-200, 294-8. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 4' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 40-2. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:45:11 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: TETRAHEDRON CITIES FOR LAND & SEA Mid-Ocean Cities by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller proposed giant hollow tetrahedron floating cities anchored in mid-ocean. They would serve as harbors for transferring cargo, as airports, and as bases for ocean development. Similar type structures could be built on land. For more information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Triton City--A Prototype Floating City' by the Triton Foundation, Inc Nov 1968 HUD Document # PB 180-051/lc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Buckminster Fuller's Floating City", The Futurist (magazine) by Shoji Sadao Feb 1, 1969 pages _?_-_?_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Utopia or Oblivion' 1969 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 350-1, 361-2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Project Survival' 1971 published by Playboy (magazine) pages 221-38 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 332-5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 4' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 175-80. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 24, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:46:15 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S TETRAHEDRON TRUSS Tetrahedra Trusses by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller devised ways of building structures out of just tetrahedra. The tetrahedra could be both regular and stretched. The tension and compression components could be separated out in order to minimize the weight and cost. Tetra trusses can be used to build floors, walls, towers, boats, and even geodesic domes. For more information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Geodesics' 1968 by Edward Popko figures 88 and 90 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dymaxion World of R. Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 165-6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Synergetics' 1975 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 404-8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' 1983 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 291-92 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Cosmography' 1992 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 184-87 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:52:21 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: VERTICAL TAKEOFF & LANDING CARS Omni-Medium Transport by Joe S. Moore For many years R. Buckminster Fuller envisioned a scientific car to complement his scientific house. It would be able to go on land, sea, or in the air. It would be capable of vertical take-off and landing. It would be relatively small and economical so that the average person could afford to own one and park it in the back yard or on the roof. It would be able to cruise at about 10,000 feet and fly approximately 300 miles per hour with a range of about 400 miles before refueling. It would be able to carry four people and cost no more than a medium priced car. Such vehicles are now being developed! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 24-31 & 102-13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Buckminster Fuller' 1974 by Alden Hatch pages 122-34 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Star-Craft International Sales 1986 900 no. 400 w. Bldg. 9 North Salt Lake City Utah 84054 usa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moshier Technologies Corporation 1987 599-a Fairchild Drive Mountain View Calif 94043 usa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moller International 1994 1222 Research Park Drive Davis Calif 95616 usa ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:53:46 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S GEODESIC WINDMILL Geodesic Windmills by Joe S. Moore Windmills as presently designed are expensive to build and maintain, unable to operate in high winds, and environmentally offensive (noisy, too tall, etc.). In 1975 R. Buckminster Fuller suggested a design that would seem to solve all of the above problems. A wind turbine could be enclosed inside a geodesic dome. A ventilator mounted near the top of the dome would cause part or all of it to rotate as the wind direction changed. The low pressure area near the exit of the ventilator would draw air in from the bottom of the dome and out through the top, thereby turning the turbine blades and shaft attached to the generator. A flywheel would regulate fluctuations in wind speed. This wind machine could be operated in significantly higher wind speeds without being shut down. Capital and operating costs would be much lower because all heavy components would be on the ground and protected by the dome. Any noise would be contained inside the dome, and it's height would be a fraction of conventional towers. This breakthrough concept needs to be thoroughly checked out by competent authorities and either proven or not. If true, it could give a dramatic economic boost to a major segment of the alternative energy industry. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dymaxion House" Mar 16, 1946 by R. Buckminster Fuller U.S.patent app #_,_?_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks pages 130-31 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Everything I Know", Buckminster Fuller Institute, Santa Barbara, Calif. by R. Buckminster Fuller Jan/Feb 1975 Audio/Videotape session #8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventions' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1983 pages 95-126 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:55:12 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: FULLER'S "WORLD GAME" Global Systems Analysis by Joe S. Moore Many years ago R. Buckminster Fuller started conducting a global simulation which would take into account all the resources of the earth in trying to figure out how to meet all the physical needs of all the people of the world. He found that by using only proven technology it was now finally possible to take care of everyone at a decent standard of living! For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- '50 Years of Design Science Revolution & the World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1969 pages 110-18 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Testimony of R. Buckminster Fuller before the U.S.Senate Subcommittee....." by R. Buckminster Fuller Congressional Record Mar 4, 1969 pages _?_(23) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Address by Mr. Melvin Price of Illinois on the World Resources Simulation by Melvin Price Center Proposed in Illinois" Congressional Record May 21, 1970 pages _?_(2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Inventory of World Resources, Human Trends & Needs: Doc 1-the World Game' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1971 183 pages ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Bucky Fuller at Home in the Universe' by Alden Hatch 1974 pages 246-58 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' by R. Buckminster Fuller 1981 pages 198-226 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Fuller's New World Game Encourages global cooperation",San Jose Mercury News by Beth Ann Krier Dec 29, 1982 pages 1d & 5d ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- World Game Projects Inc. Feb 1, 1994 3215 Race Street Philadelphia Pennsylvania 19104 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 23, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:56:37 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: EXPANDABLE GEODESIC DOMES Expandable Geodesic Domes by Joe S. Moore R. Buckminster Fuller designed large, multi-story domes which could be easily expanded as the need arose. Inside a dome multiple octet-truss floors were suspended from a central hollow mast containing an elevator and utilities. To expand the whole structure, a larger dome would be constructed completely around and outside of the older, smaller dome. Then the old dome would be disassembled. Finally, the octet-truss floors would be extended out to the new walls. For further information see: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Dymaxion World of Buckminster Fuller' 1973 by R. Buckminster Fuller & Robert Marks page 187 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Critical Path' 1981 by R. Buckminster Fuller pages 323-7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The Artifacts of R. Buckminster Fuller, Volume 3' edited by James Ward 1985 pages 72-75 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capitola, California, USA October 21, 1994 -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:45:32 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: MEMBER LIST Chris, Would it be possible to have the computer sort the member list by member's last name instead of by computer host name? It sure would make it easier to look up someone's e-mail address. -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com 408-464-3743 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 15:00:31 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Rywalt Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, New York Subject: Re: Joe Moore's voluminous postings Is it just me or do his posts sound like the backs of Bucky Fuller trading cards? But seriously, I have a request for Joe: could you post your bibliography in one lump sum? Your brief paragraphs mention some very interesting concepts -- tying together some remote Bucky-stuff -- but having the sources spread out like that is a bit daunting. The magazine citations would be especially helpful. Such a list would also make a good addition to the FAQ. Chris. crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:30:11 -0400 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Mike Kohl Subject: Re: Joe Moore's voluminous postings I agree, but maybe I don't know Joe's true purpose. >Is it just me or do his posts sound like the backs of Bucky Fuller trading > cards? >But seriously, I have a request for Joe: could you post your bibliography in > one lump sum? Your brief paragraphs mention some very interesting > concepts -- tying together some remote Bucky-stuff -- but having the > sources spread out like that is a bit daunting. The magazine > citations would be especially helpful. >Such a list would also make a good addition to the FAQ. > > Chris. > crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com *************************************************************************** LEARN . . . HAVE FUN . . . MAKE A DIFFERENCE Michael P. Kohl, P.E. Phone (404) 453-7455 Michael_Kohl@INS.com Fax (404) 740-1506 International Network Services Pager (800) 710-0104 *************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:00:46 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: MEMBER LIST MEMBERSHIP LIST FOR THE DISCUSSION OF BUCKMINSTER FULLER'S WORKS Current as of 10-20-94. 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ENRICO@YKTVMZ Swanson, Craig Seeswan@AOL.COM Sykes, Scott ssykes@CARIB.VF.GE.COM ------------------------------------ T ----------------------------------- Thibodeau Jr, Ted TED@BCVAX2 Thompson, Brady ae610@FREENET.CARLETON.CA Thompson, Evan evthomp@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU Townsend, Christopher cpt1@CORNELL.EDU Travis, Timothy lsc1547@DLSCG3.DLSC.DLA.MIL Tremblay, Marc marc@HARFANG.LOGIN.QC.CA ------------------------------------ U ----------------------------------- Urner, Kirby pdx4d@TELEPORT.COM Ushe, Zvidzai ai162@FREENET.CARLETON.CA ------------------------------------ V ----------------------------------- Vanlynden, Troy n9340162@HENSON.CC.WWU.EDU Viviano, Salvatore SVIVIANO@DELPHI.COM ------------------------------------- W ---------------------------------- Wardley, Andy abw@DSBC.ICL.CO.UK Weir, Clayton cweir@INSPIRE.OSPI.WEDNET.EDU Wenzel, Steve stevew7562@AOL.COM Wilson, Doug wilson@BWCO.COM Wong, Gordon wong@RCC.COM Wood, Lee woodh@SFU.CA Wright, Ed ubs!bucky!edw@UUNET.UU.NET ------------------------------------- X ---------------------------------- ------------------------------------- Y ---------------------------------- Yarbrough, Charles SOCOMCY@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU ------------------------------------- Z ---------------------------------- =========================================================================== * Total number of "concealed" subscribers: 1 * Total number of users subscribed to the list: 185 (non-"concealed" only) * Total number of local node users on the list: 0 (non-"concealed" only) -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:01:09 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: Joe Moore's voluminous postings In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:30:11 -0400 from On Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:30:11 -0400 Mike Kohl said: >>But seriously, I have a request for Joe: could you post your bibliography in >> one lump sum? Your brief paragraphs mention some very interesting >> concepts -- tying together some remote Bucky-stuff -- but having the >> sources spread out like that is a bit daunting. The magazine >> citations would be especially helpful. >>Such a list would also make a good addition to the FAQ. I agree. As soon as I get my act together there will probably be a Joe Moore section in the FAQ. Especially the bibliography is excellent. Hopefully, he will post it publically so I don't have to piece everything together in my favorite editor :) -- Christopher J. Fearnley | UNIX SIG Leader at PACS cfearnl@pacs.pha.pa.us | (Philadelphia Area Computer Society) fearnlcj@duvm.bitnet | Design Science Revolutionary fearnlcj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu | Explorer in Universe 503 S 44th ST | Linux Advocate Philadelphia PA 1914-3907 | (215)349-9681 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:04:09 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: MEMBER LIST In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:45:32 PDT from On Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:45:32 PDT Joe Moore said: >Chris, > >Would it be possible to have the computer sort the member list >by member's last name instead of by computer host name? It sure >would make it easier to look up someone's e-mail address. > I would surely hope so :) But I don't know. Have you mailed to listserv@ubvm the one-line message "help" That will clue you into other commands. BTW, most people who read this list do so through net news and so are unsubscribed. Your audience probably numbers in the thousands -- but they are not explicitly subscribed. Do Enjoy! Chris ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 20:36:52 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: Re: Joe Moore's voluminous postings In-Reply-To: <9410251804.aa17076@cruzio.cruzio.com>; from "Chris Fearnley" at Oct 25, 94 9:01 pm Chris Fearnley writes: > > On Tue, 25 Oct 1994 16:30:11 -0400 Mike Kohl said: > >>But seriously, I have a request for Joe: could you post your bibliography i n > >> one lump sum? Your brief paragraphs mention some very interesting > >> concepts -- tying together some remote Bucky-stuff -- but having the > >> sources spread out like that is a bit daunting. The magazine > >> citations would be especially helpful. > >>Such a list would also make a good addition to the FAQ. > > I agree. As soon as I get my act together there will probably be a > Joe Moore section in the FAQ. Especially the bibliography is excellent. > Hopefully, he will post it publically so I don't have to piece everything > together in my favorite editor :) > -- > Christopher J. Fearnley | UNIX SIG Leader at PACS > cfearnl@pacs.pha.pa.us | (Philadelphia Area Computer Society) > fearnlcj@duvm.bitnet | Design Science Revolutionary > fearnlcj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu | Explorer in Universe > 503 S 44th ST | Linux Advocate > Philadelphia PA 1914-3907 | (215)349-9681 Will do! (Remember, folks, you asked for it. No complaining--but will try to pace myself a bit so you don't get a bad case of info indigestion.) I've been collecting Bucky stuff for the last 24 years, and I just spent the last 2 years dumping it into a database. So, I can generate lots of lists. Goes from 1895 to the present. A bit of technical data: I have an Amiga 2000 computer with a Motorola 68000 cpu, 2400 baud modem, 2 800+k floppies, and a Syquest 44meg removable hard drive. The pictures are in the standard Amiga iff-ilbm format. The pictures are in both b&w and color sets. The b&w pics average about 8k, and the color pics average about 30k. The color will fit on one floppy if compressed. Looks like I won't be getting in much beach time--will just have to watch the waves from my window. (Tough life, but somebody has to do it.) You'l be hearing from me---god willing. -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:42:25 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: NONDELIVERYS Chris, Would it be possible to fix Darren Cromer's e-mail address? Each time I send e-mail to GEODESIC his is rejected by the postmaster. think if you take a look at it you will see what's wrong. The poor fellow has been missing all our memorable postings! -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 18:26:38 GMT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Rywalt Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, New York Subject: Doing More With Less: Lightbulbs (NYT article) I'm always happy to see someone doing more with less, and today on the train I saw this article over someone's shoulder. I thought I'd buy the paper and share this with you, since this is interesting technology. (In the Business Section!) (Compare the life of these bulbs to the life of a standard halogen floodlight, which is around 100 hours.) Chris. crywalt@tinman.dev.prodigy.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >From the New York Times, Wednesday, October 26, 1994, page D6: Light Source To Replace Many Bulbs by John Holusha A new type of energy-efficient, long-life lighting developed by a Maryland company with support from the Energy Department may allow the replacement of hundreds of floodlight bulbs with just a few of the new units. The technology uses microwave energy to produce white light similar to that emitted by the sun. The microwaves excite the element sulfur, which is combined with an inert gas in a golf-ball-sized bulb. Unlike conventional light bulbs, the new units have no electrodes inside to burn out, the most common form of lamp failure. The bulbs have been combined with plastic ``light pipes'' for testing at two installations in Washington: the Forrestal Building, which is the headquarters for the Energy Department, and the Smithsonian Institution's Air and Space Museum. In each installation, light from the sulfur bulb is projected by a reflector into long plastic pipes lined with a semireflective film. With either a mirror or a second bulb at the far end, the light reflects back and forth as it goes along the pipe, with some of it leaking through the semireflective film to illuminate the surrounding area. At the Forrestal Building, a single light pipe 10 inches in diameter and 240 feet long, with a sulfur bulb at each end, has replaced 240 individual 175-watt high-intensity lamps to illuminate the entrance and the nearby roadway. Energy Department officials say the pipe gives off four times as much light as the series of bulbs it replaced, but consumes only one-third the electricity. The Federal officials say the sulfur in the bulb does not wear out and the life of the units is limited only by the microwave generators, which last 10,000 to 15,000 hours. They said the cost of the light pipes for the two test installations was less than half of the bulbs they replaced. The sulfur lamp was developed by Fusion Lighting of Rockville, Md. The light pipe was invented by A.L. Whitehead Ltd. of Vancouver, using plastic reflector films sold by Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing. Fusion Lighting expects to have a commercial product on the market next year. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 16:49:10 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: NONDELIVERYS In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:42:25 PDT from On Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:42:25 PDT Joe Moore said: >Chris, > >Would it be possible to fix Darren Cromer's e-mail address? >Each time I send e-mail to GEODESIC his is rejected by the postmaster. > think if you take a look at it you will see what's wrong. The >poor fellow has been missing all our memorable postings! > I have e-mailed his sys-admin and apparently nothing has been done. The GEODESIC maintainers have been notified and nothing has been done. A few months ago three (3) accounts were bouncing mail so the situation has improved somewhat :) -- Christopher J. Fearnley | UNIX SIG Leader at PACS cfearnl@pacs.pha.pa.us | (Philadelphia Area Computer Society) fearnlcj@duvm.bitnet | Design Science Revolutionary fearnlcj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu | Explorer in Universe 503 S 44th ST | Linux Advocate Philadelphia PA 1914-3907 | (215)349-9681 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 09:19:35 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: UPLOADING PICTURE FILES Chris, I am going to try to send a small (3.6k), uncompressed, b&w picture file named "BuckyPic.amiga via "FTP". The software that my Internet provider uses is a variant of FTP called "NcFTP" (v1.5.6) by NCEMRSoft. The program by default logs in anonymously and uses my e-mail address for a password. The commands I will be giving it are the following: ncftp> open LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET ncftp> image (switch to binary mode) ncftp> put BuckyPic.amiga :/fearnley/pics/ ncftp> quit But before I do, I have the following questions: Do I have the name of your computer right? What path do you want me to use? Does your machine acknowledge the uploading of a file by sending a message such as "Your upload is complete. Bucky thanks you." And finally, the burning question: Why am I sitting alone in a small, windowless room pouring over arcane manuals and typing cryptic sentences into a computer, when I could be basking in the sun at the beach, sipping wine coolers, and watching nubile young ladies play volleyball?!!! Joe -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 15:56:19 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: UNDERSTANDING SYNERGETICS Gerald de Jong, I've read both volumes of Synergetics at least 3 times since they were published. Because there is so much material in each one and the ideas are so different from what we're used to, it takes a long time for the stuff to sink in. Each time I would read them and then put the books aside for a few years before I read them again. Each time I gradually understood more. I understand enough to know how much I don't understand. However, there are others who I know understand Synergetics better than I. See the references in the various poopsheets about different aspects of the geometry. Also, see Amy Edmondson's book (she was one of Bucky's geometry assistants), Richard Brenneman's book, and Robert Mark's book. For more detailed citations see the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document in the ARCHIVES. They can be specifically located by using your World Wide Web browsing software (use the keyword GEODESIC) or downloading the log file for May 1994. Hang in there, Joe -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:36:28 PDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Joe Moore Subject: MISSPELLED LAST NAME Dagan Packman, I think you have 2 options: First, you could send an e-mail to whomever is in charge of the computer requesting that they correct the spelling of your last name. I would try SYSOP at GEODESIC@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU. However, the way I would do it would be to send the command SIGNOFF GEODESIC to LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET to get the erroneous info out of the computer and then send the command SUBSCRIBE GEODESIC to LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET to resubscribe with your correct last name in the computer. Good luck, Joe -- JOE S MOORE joemoore@cruzio.com TEL: 408-464-3743 850 PARK AVE, # 3-A FAX: 408-479-0733 CAPITOLA, CA 95010 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 04:10:22 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Chris Fearnley Subject: Re: UNDERSTANDING SYNERGETICS In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 27 Oct 1994 15:56:19 PDT from On Thu, 27 Oct 1994 15:56:19 PDT Joe Moore said: [Deletia] >see Amy Edmondson's book (she was one of Bucky's geometry assistants), >Richard Brenneman's book, and Robert Mark's book. For more detailed >citations see the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document in the ARCHIVES. >They can be specifically located by using your World Wide Web browsing >software (use the keyword GEODESIC) or downloading the log file for May >1994. I think the July log has the last version I posted. Newer that the May version - The version number "v.1.0, 12 July 1994" appears near the top of this most recent version. I have a newer version on my harddisk, but it isn't better. No time to edit for near future, sorry. > >Hang in there, > >Joe -- Christopher J. Fearnley | UNIX SIG Leader at PACS cfearnl@pacs.pha.pa.us | (Philadelphia Area Computer Society) fearnlcj@duvm.bitnet | Design Science Revolutionary fearnlcj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu | Explorer in Universe 503 S 44th ST | Linux Advocate Philadelphia PA 1914-3907 | (215)349-9681 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 01:52:19 -0500 Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Michael Justice Subject: "Geodesic airplane" article Just thought I'd let interested people know -- While browsing through some old issues of magazines in a hobby store, I ran into a model airplane design which uses geodesic structures to save weight while maintaining strength. The model's name is "Jumpin' Geo", by John Hunton and Bill Winter, in the November 1991 issue of _Model_Aviation_ (the journal of the Academy of Model Aeronautics, or AMA). Interesting design. The wing structure is apparently what they feel is geodesic; instead of ribs running front to back, the ribs are in a crosshatch pattern, and are made of multiple segments. Anyway. Just in case people are interested, There It Is. :-) -- Michael. -- Michael A Justice|"Once upon a time in this country, some men composed a fairy justice@mcs.com | tale and called it the Bill of Rights. It said something Libertarian Party| quaint about the right[s] of the people...."--Anson Guthrie NRA/ILA/ISRA/TCA | PGP 2.3a/2.6 PUBLIC KEY available: finger justice@mcs.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 20:58:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Louis K. Bonham" Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: "Louis K. Bonham" Subject: Bauersfeld vs. Fuller As this is my first post to this list, please forgive me if I am replowing old ground. Over the past few years, my research into geodesic structures led me to come across various assertions that B. Fuller did not, in fact, invent the geodesic dome. By and large, I discounted these as either revisionist history or simply East German propaganda. Recently, however, I read a superbly documented piece [an abridged translation of Krausse's *Architecture from Projection* (I can send copies to anyone interested)] documenting Dr. Walter Bauersfeld's construction of a geodesic dome atop the Zeiss optical factory in Jena, Germany, in the 1920's. This design was patented by the Carl Zeiss Company, and was apparently written up repeatedly in New York newspapers in the 1920's -- a time when B. Fuller was living in New York. Comparing the specs of Fuller's original geodesic dome patent with Bauersfeld's design, they are virtually identical. Indeed, as an attorney who prosecutes and defends patent infringement cases regularly, I have no doubt that Fuller's original patent would have been invalidated had anyone brought the Bauersfeld / Zeiss "prior art" to the attention of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office during the life of original Fuller patent. My question for the members of the list: while he was alive, was Fuller ever apprised of Dr. Bauersfeld's work, and, if so, what was his reaction/response? I find no mention of this in any of Fuller's works, and yet everything I have read about Fuller makes it seem inconceivable that he would have either grossly plagarized another's work or, when confronted with evidence of prior invention, failed to freely acknowledged the fact. Anybody have the answer? TIA ------------> LKB lkbonham@beerlaw.win.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 12:45:22 EDT Reply-To: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works Sender: List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's works From: Trimtab Subject: No net access for 2 weeks. I have not been receiving internet mail for the last two weeks. It turns out t hat our domain manager co-opted my domain name. Until this is resolved be sure to send E-mail to BDAMICO@GWUVM.GWU.EDU I have restored that account to worki ng order (it was forwarding mail to the dead domain, causing it to disappear). If you sent something you want me to see, please resend it to the gwuvm addres s.